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Ivan Lee
Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 230 Location: Rio de Janeiro - Brazil
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:58 pm Post subject: Need a good and fast 35mm |
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Ivan Lee wrote:
hey guys, I think I have a small gap between 28mm and 50mm. My Minolta 35mm f/1.8 is nice, but a little soft wide open, and with some CA.
I want a lens with no CA and decent bokeh.
I think I can't afford Zeiss/Leica...so my options are very limited... and absolutelly NO Nikon/Pentax/Takumar because of the inverse focus ring.
So my options are more and more limited...
I had a MIR 35 f/2 and sold it because it was very soft (maybe a bad sample)
thanks! _________________ Ivan Lee Barcellos - Director of Photography
www.planoconjunto.com.br
Sony A7s
Lumix GH3
Minolta MC: Minolta MC 24/2.8 - Minolta MD 28/2 - Minolta MC 35/1.8 - Minolta MC 35/2.8 - Minolta MD 50/1.2 - Minolta MD Macro 50/3.5 - Minolta MD 100/2.5
Konica AR: Hexanon 28/3.5 - Hexanon 50/1.7 - Hexanon 57/1.4
M42: Industar 50-2 - CZ Pancolar 50/1.8
Olympus OM: Zuiko Auto-Macro 50/3.5 - Vivitar 28/2 Close Focus |
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
take a full frame, a 85 will give you better results than any 35 on your Lumix _________________ T* |
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aleksanderpolo
Joined: 24 Jan 2010 Posts: 684
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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aleksanderpolo wrote:
inverse focus ring is actually fun. Now I don't even notice whether I am turning clockwise or anticlockwise anymore.
I thought that minolta 35/1.8 is one of the better 35? I don't have it, so I can't really tell if nikon 35/2 is sharper (it's sharp enough for me) or not, if you don't mind inverse focus |
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guatipen
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 76
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:16 pm Post subject: 35mm lenses |
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guatipen wrote:
Minolta 35mm f1.8 is incredible for me.... and mir 24-m one of the best i test in 35mm....
with the minolta....
Whit the mir 24-m
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egidio
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 222 Location: slovenia
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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egidio wrote:
funny that your mir was soft, mine is sharp wide open, but its a lot sharper stopped on 2.8. I heard some nikon 35mm are great. It's actually hard to get cheap wide lens that is fast and sharp, specially on small sensor
edit: oh sorry nikon has inverse focus ring.
I actually never even know which way is the normal way, I use different lenses and it doesnt bother me if focusing ring is in different way. _________________ I use: Flektogon 2.8/20, Flektogon 2.8/35, planar 50mm/1.4, Takumar 1.4/50mm, Takumar 1.9/85, MIR 24H, Mir1v, Industar-50-2, Helios-44-2, Pentacon 2.8/135, cyclop 85 1.5 |
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Ivan Lee
Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 230 Location: Rio de Janeiro - Brazil
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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Ivan Lee wrote:
To me the inverse focus is a huge issue, because all these lenses I use for movie stuff... and I usually work as a 1st AC (focus puller) on movie making.
And I'm so familiar with the (focus to the right, close focus, focus to the left, infinity)... the inverse focus bothers me a lot.
Of course, this is not an issue with still photography... but with movie making, it is, in my humble opinion
The MIR I had was soft even at f/2.8, and it also had a very weird bokeh, I heard this lens was a copy of the Nikon...but I'm sure I got a terrible sample...
Maybe I could try again...
thanks! _________________ Ivan Lee Barcellos - Director of Photography
www.planoconjunto.com.br
Sony A7s
Lumix GH3
Minolta MC: Minolta MC 24/2.8 - Minolta MD 28/2 - Minolta MC 35/1.8 - Minolta MC 35/2.8 - Minolta MD 50/1.2 - Minolta MD Macro 50/3.5 - Minolta MD 100/2.5
Konica AR: Hexanon 28/3.5 - Hexanon 50/1.7 - Hexanon 57/1.4
M42: Industar 50-2 - CZ Pancolar 50/1.8
Olympus OM: Zuiko Auto-Macro 50/3.5 - Vivitar 28/2 Close Focus |
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egidio
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 222 Location: slovenia
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:04 am Post subject: |
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egidio wrote:
do you shoot video with canon? For video investing in canon 35 1.4L is good choice, they are not that expensive used (relatively) _________________ I use: Flektogon 2.8/20, Flektogon 2.8/35, planar 50mm/1.4, Takumar 1.4/50mm, Takumar 1.9/85, MIR 24H, Mir1v, Industar-50-2, Helios-44-2, Pentacon 2.8/135, cyclop 85 1.5 |
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mr_Equator
Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Posts: 42
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:34 am Post subject: |
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mr_Equator wrote:
I may suggest CZ Distagon 35mm 1.4 but it's pretty expensive now... _________________ My flickr gallery:
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Ivan Lee
Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 230 Location: Rio de Janeiro - Brazil
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:36 am Post subject: |
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Ivan Lee wrote:
egidio wrote: |
do you shoot video with canon? For video investing in canon 35 1.4L is good choice, they are not that expensive used (relatively) |
I shoot video with a GH1
The Canon 35mm L is very interesting... I know the EF version is very good and very expensive... but what about the FD version? _________________ Ivan Lee Barcellos - Director of Photography
www.planoconjunto.com.br
Sony A7s
Lumix GH3
Minolta MC: Minolta MC 24/2.8 - Minolta MD 28/2 - Minolta MC 35/1.8 - Minolta MC 35/2.8 - Minolta MD 50/1.2 - Minolta MD Macro 50/3.5 - Minolta MD 100/2.5
Konica AR: Hexanon 28/3.5 - Hexanon 50/1.7 - Hexanon 57/1.4
M42: Industar 50-2 - CZ Pancolar 50/1.8
Olympus OM: Zuiko Auto-Macro 50/3.5 - Vivitar 28/2 Close Focus |
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Chris Watson
Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 168 Location: Fort Worth
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:42 am Post subject: |
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Chris Watson wrote:
Ivan Lee wrote: |
To me the inverse focus is a huge issue, because all these lenses I use for movie stuff... and I usually work as a 1st AC (focus puller) on movie making.
And I'm so familiar with the (focus to the right, close focus, focus to the left, infinity)... the inverse focus bothers me a lot.
Of course, this is not an issue with still photography... but with movie making, it is, in my humble opinion
The MIR I had was soft even at f/2.8, and it also had a very weird bokeh, I heard this lens was a copy of the Nikon...but I'm sure I got a terrible sample...
Maybe I could try again...
thanks! |
Yeah my copy of the Mir is super sharp even wide open. I'm sure it was a bad lens. Definitely give it another go. _________________ Chris Watson
Watson Videography
www.dallasweddingfilms.com
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egidio
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 222 Location: slovenia
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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egidio wrote:
You can put FD lens on gh1 right? Thats a good idea, but I dont know much about old FD L lenses, but they must be good and relatively cheap nowdays,
maybe canon fd 35 f2 or 35 f2.8 TS _________________ I use: Flektogon 2.8/20, Flektogon 2.8/35, planar 50mm/1.4, Takumar 1.4/50mm, Takumar 1.9/85, MIR 24H, Mir1v, Industar-50-2, Helios-44-2, Pentacon 2.8/135, cyclop 85 1.5 |
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Ivan Lee
Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 230 Location: Rio de Janeiro - Brazil
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:45 am Post subject: |
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Ivan Lee wrote:
egidio wrote: |
You can put FD lens on gh1 right? Thats a good idea, but I dont know much about old FD L lenses, but they must be good and relatively cheap nowdays,
maybe canon fd 35 f2 or 35 f2.8 TS |
yeah, you can put any lens on the GH1...I just need to buy the adapter
too bad there isn't a 35/1.4L for FD, only EF... the 35/2 is very overpriced in my opinion... around 500usd _________________ Ivan Lee Barcellos - Director of Photography
www.planoconjunto.com.br
Sony A7s
Lumix GH3
Minolta MC: Minolta MC 24/2.8 - Minolta MD 28/2 - Minolta MC 35/1.8 - Minolta MC 35/2.8 - Minolta MD 50/1.2 - Minolta MD Macro 50/3.5 - Minolta MD 100/2.5
Konica AR: Hexanon 28/3.5 - Hexanon 50/1.7 - Hexanon 57/1.4
M42: Industar 50-2 - CZ Pancolar 50/1.8
Olympus OM: Zuiko Auto-Macro 50/3.5 - Vivitar 28/2 Close Focus |
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karabud
Joined: 11 Apr 2009 Posts: 843 Location: Lodz
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:18 am Post subject: |
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karabud wrote:
Ivan Lee wrote: |
egidio wrote: |
You can put FD lens on gh1 right? Thats a good idea, but I dont know much about old FD L lenses, but they must be good and relatively cheap nowdays,
maybe canon fd 35 f2 or 35 f2.8 TS |
yeah, you can put any lens on the GH1...I just need to buy the adapter
too bad there isn't a 35/1.4L for FD, only EF... the 35/2 is very overpriced in my opinion... around 500usd |
35/2 ef cost about 250$...but i don`t know nothing about it performance. Maybe try second rokkor sample ? or buy nikkor 35/1.8 g - it`s sharp contrasty lens with quite good rendering _________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/atheist_lenses/
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:51 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
I found a reasonably priced CZ Flek. If you keep looking and have patience, one will show.
I've no idea about the focus ring as I'm not quite that bad......yet _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Perhaps a Zuiko 2/35?
There is one sold in Hamburg for €125,-.
I might sell my Leica Summicron 2/35, but I don't know yet... _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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DSG
Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 544 Location: London, UK.
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Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 4:27 am Post subject: |
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DSG wrote:
I recommend the Nikon 35mm f1.4 Ai-S. |
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Ivan Lee
Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 230 Location: Rio de Janeiro - Brazil
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 4:16 am Post subject: |
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Ivan Lee wrote:
Thanks for all the replies... I just received a Rokkor 35mm f/2.8 and I really liked it's perfomance... nice wide open perfomance (less CA than the 1.8 version) and is insanely sharp at f/4 and f/5.6... and the bokeh is nicer too.
But I'll need a faster lens... the Zuiko should be nice, but all Zuikos are so expensive... and the nikkors are great, but the silly inversed focus ring pisses me off... _________________ Ivan Lee Barcellos - Director of Photography
www.planoconjunto.com.br
Sony A7s
Lumix GH3
Minolta MC: Minolta MC 24/2.8 - Minolta MD 28/2 - Minolta MC 35/1.8 - Minolta MC 35/2.8 - Minolta MD 50/1.2 - Minolta MD Macro 50/3.5 - Minolta MD 100/2.5
Konica AR: Hexanon 28/3.5 - Hexanon 50/1.7 - Hexanon 57/1.4
M42: Industar 50-2 - CZ Pancolar 50/1.8
Olympus OM: Zuiko Auto-Macro 50/3.5 - Vivitar 28/2 Close Focus |
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Arctures
Joined: 10 Jul 2009 Posts: 295
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Arctures wrote:
I am looking for super fast wide lens too. And I have found Voigtlander Nokton Classic 35mm 35 f/1.4 M.C., Leica M. It has relatively low price and I am curious has anybody had any experience with this lens and how good is it wide open?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Voigtlander-Nokton-Classic-35mm-35-f-1-4-M-C-Leica-M-/140435285564?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item20b298663c#ht_2799wt_907 _________________ Sony A7, NEX-5n, Panasonic GH5(Oly12-40/2., Contax Distagon T* 28/2.8, Contax Planar T* 50/1.4, Contax T* 80-200/4,
Minolta Rokkor MC 58/1.2, Minolta MC Rokkor-X PF 50/1.7, Minolta MD 50/2.0, Konica Hexanon AR 50/1.8,
Konica Hexanon 57/1.4, Rokkor-PF 55/1.7, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Auto Yashinon 50/2.0, Canon FD 50/3.5
Voigtl�nder APO Lanthar 90/3.5 M42, Topcon RE.Topcor 58/1.8, Helios-44-2 58/2.0, Canon FD 24/2.8,
Canon FD 135/2.5 SC, Auto Topcor 135/3.5, Pentax SMC 55/1.8, Minolta 35/2.8, Minolta MD 35-70/3.5 |
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Joosep
Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Posts: 305 Location: Estonia, Tallinn
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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Joosep wrote:
My Mir is SUPER sharp wide open.
Got it for 250 EEK, thats about 22 USD. _________________ The future is analogue.
23 cameras, 25 lenses and counting. |
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spleenone
Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 1130 Location: Slovakia
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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spleenone wrote:
My advice is get the FDn 35/2. It is really better than Canon EF 35/2 which is soft and AF lens
FDn is sharp with newer design that FD ssc 35/2 and has also beautiful character of bokeh and colours. _________________ Shoot on analog mainly with
Nikkor glass
then Pentacon6TL for squares
and Fujica GL690 in case of 6x9
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marty
Joined: 09 Apr 2009 Posts: 767 Location: Italy
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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marty wrote:
spleenone wrote: |
My advice is get the FDn 35/2. It is really better than Canon EF 35/2 which is soft and AF lens
FDn is sharp with newer design that FD ssc 35/2 and has also beautiful character of bokeh and colours. |
I fully agree but I feel necessary a tiny disclaimer here. This would be an excellent choice for the OP who used to shoot a GH1, but not exactly so for Arctures who resurrected this thread and does shoot EOS where a FD lens won't get infinity.
Cheers, M. _________________ Canon FD
Bodies: AT-1, A-1, T-90
Lenses: nFD 20mm f2.8, 24 f2.8, 28 f2.8, 35 f2, FD 50 f1.8 S.C., 85 f1.8, 100 f2.8, 135 f2.8, 200 f4, 300 f4
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uhoh7
Joined: 24 Nov 2010 Posts: 1300 Location: Idaho, USA
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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uhoh7 wrote:
FYI paid 122USD on ebay for FD 35/2 SSC concave about six weeks ago.
another one to consider might be the sigma 30mm 1.4, this could be bought new in canon mount and also used MF in 4/3 or APS-C
399USD new. _________________ Making MFlenses safe for the letter *L* |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I have this opportunity for two Nikkors
one is the 35/1.4 AIS
the other is the 35/2 AIS
really beautiful condition.
Details here:
http://forum.mflenses.com/nikkor-ais-35-1-4-and-35-2-t35217.html#1098031
Shipping registered (not insured) to Brazil is 20 Euros, insured may be 30 Euros (but I need to check if available.
If you are interested, please let me know shortly. I don't have these lenses, I need to buy them from a local store. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Don't forget the Vivitar 35mm f/1.9, which comes up on eBay occasionally. I bought one off eBay in Canon FD mount, but I don't have any shots to show you that I took with the lens wide open, unfortunately. My experience with it is good, though. I've been very satisfied with the photos I've gotten with it. S/N begins with 28, so it was made by Komine.
I found a thread here from three years ago, where there are a couple samples taken with the lens wide open. Have a look:
http://forum.mflenses.com/vivitar-35mm-f1-9-t501.html
My FD mount 35/1.9 was cheap -- I don't recall how much I paid for it, but probably less than $40. I'll wager it'll be more expensive for a Nikon/Pentax k/M42 mount. I have a clean "AI'd" 35/2 Nikkor that I use with my DSLR so I haven't paid much attention to the lens's price in different mounts. But I'm sure it goes for quite a bit less than the FD/Nikkor offerings. _________________ Michael
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Arctures, did you realise this is a rangefinder lens? What camera do you intend to use it with? It's not suitable for Canon 5D. _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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