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wanted: Voigtlander SL Macro APO Lanthar 125/2.5 M42
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:41 pm    Post subject: wanted: Voigtlander SL Macro APO Lanthar 125/2.5 M42 Reply with quote
I'm searching for this lens. I'd like to buy it - or better - exchange it for other lenses in total value of [20].

I can offer some of these lenses:

Zeiss Biotar T 1Q 75/1.5 exakta [7]
Zeiss Pancolar MC 80/1.8 M42 [8]
Zeiss Pancolar 55/1.4 M42 [7]
Zeiss Macro Prakticar MC 55/2.8 PB [4]
Zeiss Pancolar MC 50/1.8 M42 [2]
Zeiss Sonnar MC 135/3.5 M42 [2]
Meyer Primoplan 58/1.9 M42 [2]
TAIR-11A 135/2.8 M42 (the one I'm selling) [2]
MC Macro Rubinar 300/4.5 M42 (the one I'm selling) [3]
Vivitar 85/1.8 M42 (the one I'm selling) [3]
Zeiss Biotar T 1Q 58/2 M42 (slight fungus!) [1]

I'm awaiting some other lenses, which I could offer too (if their condition will be good):

Zeiss Flektogon MC 20/2.8 M42
Zeiss Prakticar MC 80/1.8 PB
Meyer Trioplan V 100/2.8 M42

I'll describe condition (+pictures) of the individual lenses upon request.

Thanks!


PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:30 pm    Post subject: Re: wanted: Voigtlander SL Macro APO Lanthar 125/2.5 M42 Reply with quote
I wasn't aware the Lanthar was made in M42. I really wish Cosina had seen fit to produce other SL series lenses in M42 as Zeiss had them do with the ZS. I'd love a Nokton for my A900 Smile

Good luck in your search, let me know if you find 2 Wink


PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thank you. Yes, there should be M42 version of all SL lenses, but 125/2.5 is quite rare independently on its mount Smile


PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have seen the sl 2/40 and 3.5/90 in M42 on Ebay.
Surely there is also the 2.5/125. I imagine it is more rare than honest politicians. Wink


PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Laughing Laughing


PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
In the last sessions of Italy's Deputees chamber, this was the attendancy:

total deputees: 630
absent: 300
normal deputees: 320
Voigtlaender 2.5/125 lenses: 8
honest deputees: 2


PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Laughing Crying or Very sad

Here is almost the same, but the 2 last equal to 0.[/b]


PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oh, guys... do you need to deprive me of the last fractions of hope? Laughing


PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I see one in Canon EOS mount
Click here to see on Ebay

I mention this because a lot of people seem to use Canon EOS as an M42 body, with adapters.


PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
NoX
For the sale price of one more of your lenses.
You can have the "New" CZ 2/100 instead of the CV 2.5/125.

I tried that 2/100. It is amazing to use the Arri inspired focus Heli in that lens.
Of course the optics are pure Zeiss as well Wink

CV2.5/125 average sell used $1250
CZ 2/100 average sell new $1450

You see what I am saying?

Very Happy


PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes Smile But as I know, there's no ZS version of that lens - the only way how can I mount it to my DSLR... Thanks anyway Smile

But there's Pentax-K version on ebay, too. I heard, that PK lenses can be mounted on Sigma body, but I haven't try it, cause I haven't any single PK lens. 2-days to verify Shocked


PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
don't know if this helps but here is one with pentax mount
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/photographers-marketplace/54756-voigtlander-apo-lanthar-125mm-f2-5-sl-macro.html


PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
F16SUNSHINE wrote:

For the sale price of one more of your lenses.
You can have the "New" CZ 2/100 instead of the CV 2.5/125.


Unfortunately the Zeiss only goes down the 1:2 while the Voigtlander goes to 1:1. Now guess which lens I would like to have Smile


PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
no-X wrote:
Yes Smile But as I know, there's no ZS version of that lens - the only way how can I mount it to my DSLR... Thanks anyway Smile

But there's Pentax-K version on ebay, too. I heard, that PK lenses can be mounted on Sigma body, but I haven't try it, cause I haven't any single PK lens. 2-days to verify Shocked


I think Larry is doing so with his Pentax K lenses. As to the 1:1 vs 1:2 it's just a tube.
I'm not kidding you guys. The focus action of that Zeiss 2/100 is like no other lens.


PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
F16SUNSHINE wrote:
As to the 1:1 vs 1:2 it's just a tube.


Agreed. Too much importance is given to the 1:1 factor. A simple tube extension set will give the 1:1 for only a few euros/dollars.


PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:
F16SUNSHINE wrote:
As to the 1:1 vs 1:2 it's just a tube.


Agreed. Too much importance is given to the 1:1 factor. A simple tube extension set will give the 1:1 for only a few euros/dollars.


I agree , people are crazy about 1:1 on same way than fast lenses.

A below can do magic or a simple tube for lot less than an 1:1 lens.

People are also crazy about longer focal length macro lenses , but cheap 50mm more than good enough for work.


PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
One more question (maybe for Pentax users): I'm not into Pentax, but I heard, that KA lenses have some kind of aperture system controled by camera body. Can they be used just like pure manual lenses, or do they need to be attached to body to close the iris?


PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I agree with Andy, Orio, Attila,,,,

1:1 is not too important to me, at this mag it is very difficult to have
enough DoF for a good shot. I personally prefer shorter focal length
some how, but macro work it creates some strong perspective-ness.
People may not like this, or not desirable. I do not have to make
client happy, so I stick to normal focal/range macro(s).

By the way, I saw new Nikkor PC-E Macro 45/2.8. That is a huge lens,
not sure I like it unless someone give it to me. Very Happy


PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
As for 50mm lenses - I bought S-M-C Macro Tak 50/4 a few weeks ago. Its performace is very nice. It's not only really sharp, but it has really zero CA. I use it for taking pictures of my equipment or things I'm selling and the results are perfect. I used other lenses for this purpose: S-M-C 50/1.4 - results were OK, but for close-up shots I need to mount and dismout extension tubes. Than I switched to flek. 35/2.4 - close -focus capability was nice, but IQ wasnt as good as with the 50/1.4. Later I used to Zenitar M2s 50/2. It was very good, bud slight CA and purple fringe around highlights appered. S-M-C Macro is simply stunning - I didn't find any sign of any kind CA in tens of pictures...

you can check...
http://img3.abload.de/img/z3alfiw.jpg
http://img3.abload.de/img/z42i3e.jpg

the only thing, which is not good, is the 5-bladed iris. I didn't check bokeh yet, but I think this will be a bit limiting...


PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
no-X wrote:
One more question (maybe for Pentax users): I'm not into Pentax, but I heard, that KA lenses have some kind of aperture system controled by camera body. Can they be used just like pure manual lenses, or do they need to be attached to body to close the iris?


You can manually set the aperture of KA lenses. This doesn't always apply to all K mount lenses however.

In order to use KA lens with camera controlled aperture, one switches the aperture to the 'A' setting (when present) just left of the largest aperture setting. To release to full manual, a small button on the mount is pressed to release from 'A'. The exception, lenses from the Pentax 'M' era (includes some third party stuff like Porst). There is no manual control disengage, so the aperture is stuck full open regardless of physical setting when mounted on newer bodies. This can be easily corrected by opening the mount and removing the aperture lever ring, leaving the lens in a stop-down manual state.

K.

edit - and the Takumar 50/4 is a very strong performer, with earlier reaching 1:1 and later ones going 1:2. I've used the latter.


PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
F16SUNSHINE wrote:
As to the 1:1 vs 1:2 it's just a tube.

I agree, but only as far as the lens doesn't contain floating element(s).

The other point is, that adding/removing of extension tube costs time and flexibility. I don't think, that 1:1 is so important, but 1:2 can be sometimes a bit limiting.


PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
no-X wrote:
F16SUNSHINE wrote:
As to the 1:1 vs 1:2 it's just a tube.

I agree, but only as far as the lens doesn't contain floating element(s).


Normally, lenses that bring the "macro" name are optimized for close focusing, and people who buys them expect that.
It's different for normal lenses that aim to offer optimal performance at both the near and far ends, such as the Distagon 2/28 (to name the first that comes to mind), those are the lenses that typically have the floating elements.


PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think floating elements are quite common even for prime macro lenses these days. E.g. all primes from Canon EF macro series use it.
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