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Orio
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:36 am Post subject: Can not scan 645 format !! |
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Orio wrote:
My STUPID Epson 4490 Photo scanner does not let me scan film in 645 format!
It only scans if it's 6x6
Damn stupid idiot scanner !!! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Rolf
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:11 am Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
I didn´t found this scanner on the German software and driver support side. Product is unknown.
Anyway could only be software problem. _________________ Rolf |
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:17 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
It doesn't recognize the frames.
I tried to scan without the holder, making it think it's a whole document, but this way the film does not hold flat and creates out of focus areas on the images _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Rolf
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
Yes, you are right. I have here a 3590 and the film holder has no 6x4,5 frame _________________ Rolf |
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Rolf
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:38 am Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
Perhaps you have to buy some slider frames in 6 x 4,5 space ? _________________ Rolf |
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Sevo
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:38 am Post subject: |
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Sevo wrote:
Have you already tried Vuescan? It does not implement the original software holder detection (unless that is done hardware side) and often lets you scan odd formats. The trial version is free, too. _________________ Sevo |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: Can not scan 645 format !! |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Orio wrote: |
My STUPID Epson 5590 Photo scanner does not let me scan film in 645 format!
It only scans if it's 6x6
Damn stupid idiot scanner !!! |
Perhaps you can fix your negs inside the 6x6 frame somehow... _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Vuescan would not make it different than what I am doing now without holder.
As for fitting somehow inside the holder, I tried, but the software does not recognize the frames, like i said, so, it's impossible to scan using the holder... _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Now, after having let me to scan two stripes as "whole document", it does not even work that way anymore: all that the scanner shows me is a black with some garbage coloured lines in _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
try epson v500 software, perhaps works _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Will it work on a different scanner? _________________ Orio, Administrator
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Now, after having let me to scan two stripes as "whole document", it does not even work that way anymore: all that the scanner shows me is a black with some garbage coloured lines in |
Does it scan "whole document" with backlight? _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I don't know what happened, one minute it worked, the minute after it started to scan mess. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
I'm not familiar with the 3550, but I own a 3170 and a 4990. Both use Epson Scan software, which is almost identical between the two scanners. One thing I DO NOT do is use it in any mode other than Professional. In Pro mode, I must manually indicate the area being scanned. There is NO auto frame detection. If the version of the Epson software you use has a Professional setting, give it a try. It should work fine for you.
Shortly after I first bought my 3170, I tried scanning some 6x6 mf slides with it -- using one of the other modes which I forget the name of now. About half the time, it wouldn't detect the frame edges right, and messed the scans up badly. The solution was switching to Pro mode. Haven't looked back since. _________________ Michael
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Attila
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Will it work on a different scanner? |
Seems yes , same software works with my office combo , scan, print etc + V500. Try it. _________________ -------------------------------
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Attila
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Epson 5590 is not exists in Google, what is your exact scanner ? _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Epson 5590 is not exists in Google, what is your exact scanner ? |
Sorry, I mistyped, model is 4490 Photo. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Here it is, how you can set your scanner.
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/support/supDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&infoType=FAQ&oid=70504&prodoid=63056498&foid=71785
Selected FAQ
Q: How do I set up Epson Scan so that it properly “Thumbnails” my 120/220 film images?
A:You must select the film size before scanning.
To view the thumbnail previews of images from 120/220 medium format film, click the Configuration button, click the Film Size tab, and then select the correct size as the Medium Format Film Size setting.
The thumbnail preview feature for 120/220 film supports the following 5 common medium format film sizes (all values are in centimeters): 6x4.5 (default), 6x6, 6x7, 6x8, and 6x9. Note that 120/220 medium format film is not supported in the Full Automatic Mode. _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Thanks Attila, yes I found about the configurations thanks Bill, but it does not work without the proper holder.
Luckily I have now found the holder - bad thing is the holder cuts a lot off the sides, it makes it look like a 545 not a 645 _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Thanks Attila, yes I found about the configurations thanks Bill, but it does not work without the proper holder.
Luckily I have now found the holder - bad thing is the holder cuts a lot off the sides, it makes it look like a 545 not a 645 |
Strange, I not see much cropping I believe we have same holder. _________________ -------------------------------
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Nesster
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
I rarely if ever use the auto frame / thumbnail - I select my frames myself. The 120 holder works fine for 645, and you get the full image area.
That's the full P645 frame, from the very first roll I shot. Epson 4490 and Epson software. _________________ -Jussi
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Attila
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
What a cute kitten! Like a little lady ! Excellent pose! _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I also select frame myself but still the cropping exist.
Oh well you can't do anything about it I think.
Here's a picture scanned with proper holder:
http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic,p,195612.html#195612 _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Nesster
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
Some people file away at the edges of the holder. I think probably it is possible to make a holder yourself, screw the guide holes etc, just putting the film on the glass by itself works. _________________ -Jussi
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:30 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Attila wrote: |
What a cute kitten! Like a little lady ! Excellent pose! |
Attila, yes, but we should keep on point, we were talking about Orio's
travail with his scanner. (It is a cute kitten, is why Jussi posted it.)
Have a story about using the 35mm slide holder the first time. I thought
the holder would hold the slide, so I placed one in a hole and it went
right through to the floor! Yeah, just used as a guide on the scanner
glass. The cardboard backing of the slide rests on the glass and is 1mm thick.
I, too, don't use the thumbnails, custom cookie cut each frame. I try to
see margin all around the picture which means you have to be careful
centering the strip in the holder. |
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