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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:55 pm Post subject: My "new" autofocus camera... |
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Orio wrote:
Yes... but don't look at me that way !
And no... I'm no renegade! I am staying with the manual lenses
But I had the chance of grabbing this one technology jewel:
And considering the amount of money I invested in Contax lenses, I thought it was really a stupid move not to get one of these cameras.
Which by the way is called Contax AX and what it does, is to put into photography terms the old saying of Mahomet and the Mountain. That is, it has an internal ceramic motor that moves the film plane to focus the image.
What you do is: you mount your Zeiss Contax lens, set the focus to infinity, and let the camera do the focusing by moving the film plane back and forth as needed.
The autofocus can be single or continuous, and while it's not superfast (but I have used autofocus lenses slower than this), it is very precise. It can be single or continuous, and when single, it locks the focus and lets you recompose image without losing it.
The advantages of this camera over the other Contax cameras?
Basically two:
1- it turns all your Zeiss Contax lenses into autofocus lenses (for those longer than 100mm a bit of prefocusing is required)
2- it turns all your Zeiss Contax lenses into macro lenses! Yes, because it has a macro mode that pulls the film plane back all the way and lets you manual focus all lenses in macro mode. This of course can be very handy when you are out and with no access to your lens arsenal, and find a subject good for macro with no macro lens in the bag. No need to change lens and no need to mount extension rings. Very very handy.
I tested the camera with a first roll, which I just ended. Everything works smoothly. We'll see the samples. I grabbed this marvel for 300 Eur, which may seem a lot for a film camera, but considering the features it brings, it's a very good price. And now I know, that even when I will be old and my eyesight gone, I'll still be able to use all my manual Contax lenses. This is good relief in perspective _________________ Orio, Administrator
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
The RTSIII and the AX are the dream in contax line, for me of course.
Now, I haven't money to buy them. But if you can, ENJOY.
Good luck and pics, Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Let me know why you need AF if you shoot almost all time with wide angle lenses? Good to own this camera , but I think nothing else good reason Collector! Congrats for your new diamond! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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koji
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2107 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
Good taste, Orio.
I bought it new with Planar 55/1.2 together, was expensive!
This camera has a built-in macro exetention ring, which is a very nice feature. (I hardly used AF.)
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Let me know why you need AF if you shoot almost all time with wide angle lenses? Good to own this camera , but I think nothing else good reason Collector! Congrats for your new diamond! |
Oh but I also use teles!
Really, I have used my 167 MT at the last Carnival with a 50mm lens on it, and the percentage of missed focus was so much higher than with my Contax lenses on the 5D / 400D, it was really depressing. About half of more of photos were to trash
The main problem is that I can not afford to shoot fast and bracket focus like I do with my Zeiss-on-EOS sets, because film is expensive.
My hope is that this camera might help me in shooting live events and reducing the number of missed focus images and the number of film rolls. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
In tele shoots I vote for your 400D with AF confirmation. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Wow, it looks in gorgeous shape, too! I'll have to limp along with my RX
for awhile longer. |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
koji wrote: |
Good taste, Orio.
I bought it new with Planar 55/1.2 together, was expensive!
This camera has a built-in macro exetention ring, which is a very nice feature. (I hardly used AF.)
Congratulations... |
Thanks Koji. I will not ask you what you paid for that set
I already found it expensive at 300 Eur but of course everything is proportional to each one's possibilities.
The thing I love most about this camera is it's big size! It fits my hand perfectly and I don't have to cramp my fingers around it. I don't have big/large hands, but I do have quite long fingers, and I am discomfortable holding at least 90% of all reflex cameras I ever tried (not to mention computer mice)! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Wow, Orio! Excellent purchase! Congratulations! What a dream cam! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
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Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Attila wrote: |
In tele shoots I vote for your 400D with AF confirmation. |
Yes, that's the reason why I ordered the 50D
(I had to sell my 400D last July to raise money for the taxes) _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
Wow, it looks in gorgeous shape, too! I'll have to limp along with my RX
for awhile longer. |
Bill, if you don't shoot fast action scenes, the focus confirmation of your RX will be more than enough! The RX has some better features than the AX, in particular the custom functions.
The macro mode of the AX however is a real benefit, which I think I will use a lot. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
Wow, Orio! Excellent purchase! Congratulations! What a dream cam! |
Yes Carsten, when I was younger, this one was REALLY only a dream!
Now, with everybody selling them to get digital cameras, it's still a dream, but one that I can afford _________________ Orio, Administrator
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
congrats Orio! great cam
I have the Rts3 but I prefer to carry the 167MT who is light and small _________________ T* |
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Séamuis
Joined: 20 Jul 2008 Posts: 157 Location: here & now
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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Séamuis wrote:
thats a very cool technology! and it sure beats the pants off of my Pentax ME-F and smc-AF 35~70mm 2.8 _________________ Fish-Eye -- Fish-Eye-Takumar 1:11/18
WideAngle -- Super-Takumar 1:3.5/28, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3/35, Auto-Takumar 1:3.5/35, Super-Takumar 1:3.5/35
Normal -- S-M-C Takumar 1:1.4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:1.8/55, Super-Takumar 1:1.8/55, S-M-C Takumar 1:1.8/55, SMC Takumar 1:1.8/55, Auto-Takumar 1:2/55
TeleType -- S-M-C Takumar 1:1.8/85, S-M-C Takumar 1:2.8/105, Super-Takumar 1:3.5/135, Tele-Takumar 1:6.3/300
Zoom -- Super Takumar-Zoom 1:4.5/70~150
Macro -- Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, S-M-C Macro-Takumar 1:4/100, Bellows-Takumar 1:4/100
Medium Format -- S-M-C Takumar 6X7 1:2.8/90 LS
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Yes, I agree on the 167 being very light and portable. Unfortunately I don't seem to be able to focus it very well in action scenes. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Farside
Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 6557 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
Nice bit of gear, Orio. |
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Laurence
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 4809 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:27 am Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
A natural progression and a natural accompaniment to the rangefinder G2! As you say, you will have a lifetime camera set that will provide a LOT of versatility. I can't wait to see some image samples.
Congratulations! _________________
Assent, and you are sane;
Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
Emily Dickinson
Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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bawang
Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Posts: 548 Location: Indiana, USA
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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bawang wrote:
Congratulations.
Lets see some samples. I am probably as excited as other posters to see the samples. |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I already posted some:
http://forum.mflenses.com/contax-ax-first-shots-t11254.html _________________ Orio, Administrator
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bawang
Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Posts: 548 Location: Indiana, USA
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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bawang wrote:
My bad. |
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