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 Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:45 pm Post subject: Bessa L Voigtlander 4.5/15mm Heliar |
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Attila wrote:
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Hi-res images are here
Bit oversaturated , but I like them 
Truly fantastic camera I would to see all day this finder. Many thanks Andy!! I think my wife take from me  
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Orio wrote:
In my opinion it's not really the saturation but perhaps a tad too much contrast?
About Krisztina taking the camera: consider it a tax.
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
Yes , contrast is too much indeed.
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Oh Cool you already tried it!
I like the first one especially.
You will have a lot of good experiences with this cam.
Plus I think we will start a trend like the trioplan and pancolar and Electro and ......................................who's next? 
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luisalegria wrote:
I like #3 !
Thats drama, over the top, just right for the subject.
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
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Oh Cool you already tried it!
I like the first one especially.
You will have a lot of good experiences with this cam.
Plus I think we will start a trend like the trioplan and pancolar and Electro and ......................................who's next?
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sichko
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sichko wrote:
Attila, what is the subject of number 3 ? Where is it ?
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| Attila, what is the subject of number 3 ? Where is it ? |
John
Can you see that little Bee on the flower about 100 meters up on the left at about 2:00. That is the subject
Or maybe I have it wrong
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
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| Attila, what is the subject of number 3 ? Where is it ? |
No idea, might be Louise confused this thread with other or Andy have right
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Rob Leslie wrote:
A very nice lens. I know a few people who have it and they produce great work with it. I like the idea of buying a S/H Bessa just to use this lens.
I wish there was a 10 or 12mm good prime for crop DSLR.
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Katastrofo wrote:
I like the first one, too, let's have some more, Attila!  |
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trifox wrote:
attila - I like your pics ---..
I have bought the Bessa L body and trying get the 4.5/15 Heliar as well (may be the 12)
HELIAR 15 (and 12) IS CONTRASTY lens --
perfect for landscapes and interiors..
dont worry about the contrast its OK..
thanks for your sharing!
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Attila wrote:
Thank you guys!
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
HEY!
I found the subject in #3.
It is the tip of Krisztinas finger in the lens when she took the shot. Look in the bottom left corner
Joking aside
I agree with Luis on this third one.
The perspective and high contrast make for a dramatic view of this Majestic scene.
I can hear heavy Brass music playing in the distance. Excellent composition choice.
Too bad for the cars. Nothing can be done about them 
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LucisPictor wrote:
"Real" 15mm are definitely impressive!
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trifox wrote:
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| "Real" 15mm are definitely impressive! |
yes, yes, yes
attila, go for another shots and show us hot it works, thanks
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| F16SUNSHINE wrote: |
Oh Cool you already tried it!
I like the first one especially.
You will have a lot of good experiences with this cam.
Plus I think we will start a trend like the trioplan and pancolar and Electro and ......................................who's next?
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I did have the Bessa L and the 21mm Color Skopar, and it was a very versatile camera indeed! I liked the minimalist look of the Bessa L, with no extra buttons and rings. I traded it away for other equipment, but am still impressed with the overall function and looks.
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Attila wrote:
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/filmcamera/bessa_L_voigtlander_heliar/
Easy to left finger in picture , it makes small spaces too huge , viewfinder is so, so bright. Such a small camera with small lens. I am really impressed.
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Schnauzer wrote:
I know i'm always different, but I like #2. I think its a very nice scene.
Good work Attila.
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Attila wrote:
Me too Ron, Peter and Koji made beautiful autumn pictures I would follow them at least a bit.
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patrickh wrote:
Totally awesome Attila. What a spread, and I presume that is without distortion correction ? ie rectilinear?
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Attila wrote:
I have no clue Patrick I hope Andy able to answer.
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koji wrote:
Patrick,
It has very little barrel distortion, but you have to use a ruler to see.
Eye ball can't detect it easily, if you want no distortion you got have
Hologon 16mm. 
The first one has hand-shaked (1/4 second hand-held), the second one
shows barrel distortion a bit as you see. The both were taken by M8,
so angle of view is about same as 20mm lens for 135 format.
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Orio wrote:
I'd qualify this distortion as "just a negligible trace", considering it's a 15mm lens.
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patrickh wrote:
I can't believe a lens that wide can be so well corrected. Go compare some of the pics from 17 and 16mm lenses in other threads.
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