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Ballu
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Ballu wrote:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08091705canon_5dmarkII.asp
"...........new 21MP CMOS sensor, an expanded ISO range of 50-25,600 and a wealth of improvements and new features including full 1080p HD movie recording, live view, 3.0" 920k dot LCD, DIGIC IV processor, increased battery capacity and sensor dust reduction. UPDATE: Body-only prices: US: $ 2,699, EU: € 2,499, UK: £ 2,299."
To me, very competitive package... hoping, 5D prices will fall more...
And a (upgrade/redesigned) fast wide lens is also announced (24mm f1.4 L)
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08091704canon_ef24mm.asp
(not for us  )
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montecarlo
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montecarlo wrote:
Sensor and price seems attractive (relatively to Nikon/Sony). The rest looks like 50D.
Well, good news. Prices of the older 5D and D700/A900 might drop a little bit.
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Ballu
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| Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:36 am Post subject: |
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Ballu wrote:
| montecarlo wrote: |
| The rest looks like 50D. |
I was not expecting any change. But 5D series in more professional grade (better material, more reliable and better sealings)...
and 1080p HD movies capture mode..
and yes... no flash.. will make you pro instantenously...
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Well here it is !
No really big surprises.
Let us just see how the early reviews go compared to the later ones.
My feelings is to give 6 months to this one before buying.
Maybe that is too safe but it seems right.
The new video feature, a new cmos, and a new engine could all be great or could show to much butter spread over to little bread.
The addition of video is maybe the wildcard 
I watched the 1st sample and it looks wonky to me.
Very exciting list of features though.
Hope it is the real deal.
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poilu wrote:
good news!
everything sound perfect, let see if the mirror is compatible with all lenses
after December it should go for less than 2000 euros and I could take it
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Orio wrote:
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| Sensor and price seems attractive (relatively to Nikon/Sony). The rest looks like 50D. |
Well, with the 50D available for as low as 1000 Euros body only (800 Euros for people with a VAT number like me), you must really need the full frame to justify the 1500 Euros of price difference, because the 15+ MP of the 50D are already abundant I think.
The 50D looks more and more the real deal of the season for me.
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montecarlo wrote:
If the 21Mpx, 24Mpx for full frame or 15Mpx for APS-C seems to be almost the limit what than about this one http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08091702canon_g10.asp  Il looks to me that since the G7 (including G7) the G series of Canon is in constant involution.
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Orio wrote:
Unless I change my mind from now until november, I think that my second digital body will be a 50D.
For 800 Euros (after VAT removal), it's just a no brainer, since I already have a FF camera.
the new 5D shoots slower than the 50D (which is not a secundary issue when photographing street events) and with the 1500 Euros that I save, I can buy a new computer, or a Distagon 21 for use with my 5D, or even another 5D first type as a third body!
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Why Canon adds competition with itself. Why someone would pay 4000 € more for 1Ds Mark III after this?
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Orio wrote:
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| Why Canon adds competition with itself. Why someone would pay 4000 € more for 1Ds Mark III after this? |
Well, I can not afford the 1Ds in any way.
But speaking sincerely, the old 5D was already a terrific competitor for people on a budget.
I am really perplexed be the slow speed. After 3 years since the 5D release, I was expecting some faster speed from the new camera. OK, there's the video capture mode... but it's smaller in size - so you lose on one side what you gain on the other...
I'm not convinced...
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Richard_D wrote:
It will be interesting to see some samples at medium and high ISO's. The landscape shot at 100 ISO from Canon shows quite pronounced cyan fringing - why didn't they use a better lens? And maybe it's just that shot, but it doesn't seem to have any greater accuity than shots from the 5D.
I'm surprised it's under 4fps I'm guessing they're looking at the landscape market rather than the sports/photo journalist market. Other than that the feature set looks pretty good, but I think the 50D might be the bigger commercial success.
The launch price is interesting for the UK 2,299 mrp against the Nikon D700 1,999 mrp (current actual about 1,700). I'm guessing at this level of camera people are generally already tied into a system so pricing isn't so important.
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Orio wrote:
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| It will be interesting to see some samples at medium and high ISO's. The landscape shot at 100 ISO from Canon shows quite pronounced cyan fringing - why didn't they use a better lens? |
I was just thinking about the same thing!
Manual focus lenses have really spoiled us.
I was looking at this landscape sample and the corners are awful. If I had corners like this in a manual focus lens of 100 Euros, I would be seriously disappointed. While people in AF forums do not even notice and claim they will never buy the new Distagon because nothing can beat an autofocus wide zoom...  
Sometimes I think AF users are really blind!!
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And maybe it's just that shot, but it doesn't seem to have any greater accuity than shots from the 5D.
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I think it's the stupid AF lens. Look at the portrait also, all washed up - and not by PP!.
Give me that camera and girl, and with my Elmarit-R 90 on a tripod you will be able to count all her skin pores, one by one!
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naplam wrote:
If you want to see some test pics there is a 300MB zip file for download here:
http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news_details.php?id=16717 |
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I think it's interesting that there's an option to the super expensive 1Ds MkIII and Nikon's D3 through D700.
And for the low FPS I would speculate that this is more of an differentiator compared to 1Ds MkIII. If they allowed the camera it would probably be much faster than that and not impaired by the high volume of data from the 21 Mpix sensor.
The only thing that I had hoped for (with the new image processor included) that was not included is 16 bit image processing.
Maybe they wanted to reserve that feature for upcoming 1D/1Ds models?
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| Well, with the 50D available for as low as 1000 Euros body only (800 Euros for people with a VAT number like me), you must really need the full frame to justify the 1500 Euros of price difference, because the 15+ MP of the 50D are already abundant I think. |
Well obviously it's a steal that a mere 50D "upscale" be worth 1500€ more. They take advantage of the 5D's "uniqueness". If I were to buy a FF digital camera I'd buy the old 5D second-hand. |
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Orio wrote:
Based on the samples that I can see here:
http://cweb.canon.jp/camera/5dmark2/index.html
the new 5D seems noisier than the Nikon D700 at 6400 ISO.
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Yes - to my eyes too, pretty good though maybe just a tad noisier than the D300 I'd say
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Orio wrote:
Comparing the specs I'd say that the D700 is a better camera than the new 5D, except in three things:
- MP size
- viewfinder size (5DII's is larger)
- mirror (5DII's is interchangeable)
On other key features, such as frames per second, autofocus (for those who use it), LCD refresh rate, shutter lag, and StN ratio, the D700 is the better camera.
What to say... the key camera features for me are 8 (listed in random order):
- sensor size (crop factor)
- image size (MP)
- performance at high ISO
- recording speed
- bit depth (for dynamic range)
- image stabilization in camera
- price
- MF lens compatibility
In a head to head, D700 wins two categories (high ISO and recording speed), 5DmkII wins also two (image size and MF lens compatibility), and there are four draws (sensor size, bit depth, IS and price).
Overall I prefer the approach of the D700, as I judge High ISO performance and writing speed, more important than image size.
However, the MF lens compatibility kills for me the option of buying it.
Interestingly, if I set up the same comparison between the 5DmkII and the 50D, I get three wins for the 50D (recording speed, price, and MF lens compatibility) and only two wins for the 5DmkII (sensor size and image size), with the rest being presumably draws.
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montecarlo wrote:
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Comparing the specs I'd say that the D700 is a better camera than the new 5D, except in three things:
- MP size
- viewfinder size (5DII's is larger)
- mirror (5DII's is interchangeable)
On other key features, such as frames per second, autofocus (for those who use it), LCD refresh rate, shutter lag, and StN ratio, the D700 is the better camera.
What to say... the key camera features for me are 8 (listed in random order):
- sensor size (crop factor)
- image size (MP)
- performance at high ISO
- recording speed
- bit depth (for dynamic range)
- image stabilization in camera
- price
- MF lens compatibility
In a head to head, D700 wins two categories (high ISO and recording speed), 5DmkII wins also two (image size and MF lens compatibility), and there are four draws (sensor size, bit depth, IS and price).
Overall I prefer the approach of the D700, as I judge High ISO performance and writing speed, more important than image size.
However, the MF lens compatibility kills for me the option of buying it.
Interestingly, if I set up the same comparison between the 5DmkII and the 50D, I get three wins for the 50D (recording speed, price, and MF lens compatibility) and only two wins for the 5DmkII (sensor size and image size), with the rest being presumably draws. |
Well the last three might be achievable with K20D (Pentax)  http://forum.mflenses.com/leica-on-pentax-t10247.html now that this exists, although I don't know nobody which would have done this (and likes to do this) .
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I have the impression Nikon's D700 forced Canon's hand before they were really ready.
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HD video???  Sorry! Who wants that???
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A G Photography wrote:
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| HD video??? Sorry! Who wants that??? |
More that you can imagine (at least browsing in other forums).
Some photojournalist are excited because more and more media need short videos to be put on their web pages.
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Nikkors: 28/3.5 AIS, 35/2, 50/1.8, 50/2 H, Micro 55/3.5, Micro 60/2.8, 85/1.8, 135/3.5 AI, 200/4 NAI, 18-55/3.5-5.6, 28-80/3.5-5.6, 55-200/4-5.6
CY: Distagon 28/2.8, Planar 50/1.4, Yashika 50/1.7, Sonnar 135/2.8
CZJ m42-Exakta: Flektogon 20/4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Tessar 40/4.5, Tessar 50/2.8, Pancolar 50/1.8, Pancolar 50/2, Biotar 58/2, Biotar 75/1.5, Tessar 80/2.8, Sonnar 135/3.5, Sonnar 135/4, Triotar 135/4
CZJ P6: Flektogon 50/4, Flektogon 65/2.8, Biometar 80/2.8, Biometar 120/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Meyer-Pentacon: Orestegon 29/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Lydith 30/3.5, Primagon 35/4.5, Helioplan 40/4.5, Domiplan 50/2.8, Primotar 50/3.5, Oreston 50/1.8, Primoplan 58/1.9, Orestor 100/2.8, Trioplan 100/2.8, Helioplan 135/4.5, Orestor 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, Primotar 135/3.5, Primotar 180/3.5, Telemegor 180/5.5, Orestegor 200/4, Pentacon 200/4, Orestegor 300/4, Telemegor 300/4.5, Telemegor 400/5.5
Schneider-Kreuznach: Curtagon 28/4, Curtagon 35/2.8, Xenon 50/1.9, Xenar 50/2.8, Tele Xenar 135/3.5, Tele Xenar 200/4
Russians: Arsat Zodiak 30/3.5, Mir-I 37/2.8, Volna-9 50/2.8, Industar-50 50/3.5, Industar-61 50/2.8, Helios 44 58/2, Helios 44-2 58/2, Helios 44-M-4 58/2, Volna-3 80/2.8, Helios 40 85/1.5, Jupiter 9 85/2, Jupiter 11 135/4
Others: Chinon-Tomioka 55/1.4, Helios 28/2.8, Isco Iscotar 50/2.8, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Ludwig Meritar 50/2.9, Schacht Travegon 35/3.5, Schacht Travenon 135/4.5, Sekor 55/1.8, Sigma MF 28/2.8, S-Takumar, 28/3.5, S-Takumar 50/1.4, S-Takumar 55/1.8, S-Takumar 55/2, Steinheil Quinar 135/2.8, Steinheil Culminar 135/4.5, Vivitar 135/2.8, Voigtlander Ultron 50/1.8, Yashica Yashinon DX 50/1.4, Zuiko MC Auto-W 28/2.8
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poilu
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poilu wrote:
I don't care about all the specs of the 5DII
I never shot higher than 100 Iso and no more than 1 frame every 2sec
I am bored to see perfect 100% crop of 10Mpixels
I want to see perfect 100% crop of 20Mpixels
And only Canon give me that for my lenses in FF
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Orio
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Orio wrote:
The 50D is new sensor technology, the 5DmkII is still old sensor technology.
THis because (according to what I read) it was not possible to make a gapless sensor for full frame because of drop of illumination in the corners of the full frame.
Now, according to Canon, the gapless sensor allows for light to enter the sensor cells with more energy, thus actually improving the signal to noise ratio of each cell.
The first images I saw of the 50D are really exciting in terms of quality.
So it's true that the 5DmkII will have 21 MP but we will have to see how they will compare in quality terms with the 15 MP of the 50D. The possibility that the 15 MP of the 50D may be better is not remote.
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F16SUNSHINE
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
The mirror box of the mark II looks exactly like my current 5D.
This is not great news for me nd maybe others who want to use Contax lenses.
Many of the Contax lenses have large Aperture posts and also Baffle "fins".
These protrude into the interior walls of the mirror box on my model.
so far I've been reluctant to file the lenses as I still use them on the film cameras.
It's a shame really. The 2.8/180 2.8/60MP and my newest 1.4/85 have never been mounted on the 5D.
I have been waiting to see what would happen with the mark II.
Now that it is here it's time to decide about filing the lenses I guess
Shaving the mirror I am not as reluctant about as filing the lenses.
This is not a mirror issue alone 
5D M II mount view
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