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raay04
Joined: 08 Dec 2012 Posts: 340 Location: India
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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:56 pm Post subject: Trying out the Pentacon 50/1.8 ............ |
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raay04 wrote:
1.Childs play
2. Coming home.........
Edited in photoshop cs4
3. Bokeh
All photos taken with the sont Nex3 _________________ Cameras-Point and shoot- Powershot A590IS Mirroless-SONY NEX-3
Lenses
M42 Mount
Super-Takumar 55/1.8, Super-Takumar 50/1.4 ,SMC Takumar 50/1.4 ,MC Helios 44M7-58/2,MC Helios 77M-4 50/1.8,Helios 44-2(valdai), Zenitar-M 50/1.7 Pentacon 50/1.8, MC Jupiter-37AM 135/3.5, Industar 50-2 50/3.5
Nikon F mount
Vivitar close focus 28/2.8(Komine) Keleinar 5N 100/2.8
LTM
Jupiter 8 50/2
KIEV
Jupiter8M ( element donor lens )
Minolta SR(MD)
MD 35/1.8, MD 35-70/3.5 macro, MD 50/1.4 ,Vivitar Auto macro 55/2.8,
Canon FD
FDn50/1.4
Minolta AF
Vivitar (cosina) 100/3.5 macro
Minolta AF 35-70/4
Enlarger
EL NIKKOR 50/2.8
Adaptall
Tamron 24/2.5 , Tamron sp 90/2.5
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Mos6502
Joined: 20 Jun 2011 Posts: 960 Location: Austin
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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Mos6502 wrote:
[please note the comment I was replying to has since been deleted]
Either somebody in this thread is a troll or just magnificently tactless.
I think most would agree that wide open the Pentacon/Oreston is a bit soft, and I think that is represented here rather than a lack of focus. Stopped down to 2.8 it is a very sharp lens. I would enjoy seeing more examples at different f stops, the Oreston is one of my favorites.
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raay04
Joined: 08 Dec 2012 Posts: 340 Location: India
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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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raay04 wrote:
Mos6502 wrote: |
Either somebody in this thread is a troll or just magnificently tactless.
I think most would agree that wide open the Pentacon/Oreston is a bit soft, and I think that is represented here rather than a lack of focus. Stopped down to 2.8 it is a very sharp lens. I would enjoy seeing more examples at different f stops, the Oreston is one of my favorites. |
yes all images were taken wide open , and all in low light condition!!! yes the first photo is bit out of focus ,but i dont write comments like "uninteresting ,pointless "etc ,cause may be i just appreciate the effort made by others with a manual focus lens!!!! we r not shooting AF here !!!! _________________ Cameras-Point and shoot- Powershot A590IS Mirroless-SONY NEX-3
Lenses
M42 Mount
Super-Takumar 55/1.8, Super-Takumar 50/1.4 ,SMC Takumar 50/1.4 ,MC Helios 44M7-58/2,MC Helios 77M-4 50/1.8,Helios 44-2(valdai), Zenitar-M 50/1.7 Pentacon 50/1.8, MC Jupiter-37AM 135/3.5, Industar 50-2 50/3.5
Nikon F mount
Vivitar close focus 28/2.8(Komine) Keleinar 5N 100/2.8
LTM
Jupiter 8 50/2
KIEV
Jupiter8M ( element donor lens )
Minolta SR(MD)
MD 35/1.8, MD 35-70/3.5 macro, MD 50/1.4 ,Vivitar Auto macro 55/2.8,
Canon FD
FDn50/1.4
Minolta AF
Vivitar (cosina) 100/3.5 macro
Minolta AF 35-70/4
Enlarger
EL NIKKOR 50/2.8
Adaptall
Tamron 24/2.5 , Tamron sp 90/2.5 |
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inombrable
Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Posts: 545 Location: Salamanca, Mexico
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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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inombrable wrote:
Had this lens in several versions, good one but never really convinced me a lot so I sold all of them, first picture yes hand is soft and is clear the focus is on the mobile screen, second one I really like the atmosphere and colors, very good effort. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I did delete comments what I think was not polite enough. Nice pictures I like all of them , surelly sharp images are a techically minimum worth to listen and don't push always poor lenses to wide open. Bokeh will same good at F2-F4 especially if background has distance.
Worth to re-shoot them if you can but not wide open and use focusing aid, tripod etc. Critics have place here at every forum just polite much as we can. We can learn from each other a lot, main goal of this forum... harsh , in-polite words certainly not helps to learn and enjoy each other company. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
These pictures are all beautiful, they have vibrance and life, they make me want to visit India, so who gives a flying toss if the Pentacon 1.8/50 isn't the sharpest lens wide open. It renders beautifully with a bokeh that is smooth and creamy. I own a lot of 50s, including some expensive sought-after ones However, I still own a Pentacon 1.8/50 and use it sometimes, because it's a very good lens in it's own right.
I think that some people need to remember or perhaps be politely reminded that IQ and lens performance are far less important than aesthetics and artistic vision when it comes to making beautiful pictures.
I mean, you wouldn't go and stare at the roof of the Cistine Chapel and criticise the brushwork, would you? _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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RSalles
Joined: 12 Aug 2012 Posts: 1372 Location: Brazil - RS / South
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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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RSalles wrote:
I'll post - if not disturbing anybody - one shot with the Pentacon MC 1.8 M42 to hook the thread a little bit more:
PES-0598676_shd por Renato Augusto Salles, no Flickr
For my style of photo it's a very decent lens. Not sharp WO as one may want, but with in the price range it is, who cares? For me it's a "must have" lens. It's a lens to carry for aggressive environments also, rainy outdoor shots, and so on, when it's risky to expose more expensive glasses,
[]s,
RSalles |
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nurkov
Joined: 21 Feb 2013 Posts: 711 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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nurkov wrote:
pentacon 50mm is one of the best and cheapest around, highly recommended _________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/34787419@N08/
Minolta and Canon user |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Beautiful Renato, thank you! Indeed inexpensive lens with not cheap quality at all. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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twinquartz
Joined: 11 Jun 2012 Posts: 316 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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twinquartz wrote:
-> RSalles:
What an interesting shot! My mind said "oh, white balance must be totally off
for that photo". But it was not |
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raay04
Joined: 08 Dec 2012 Posts: 340 Location: India
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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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raay04 wrote:
Thank U , everyone!!! And Posts from this lens on this thread are always welcome !!! The lighting condition was really low so i used wide open aperture , didn t carry a tripod as was just visiting my Aunts house ,the little boy is my Aunts grandson!! _________________ Cameras-Point and shoot- Powershot A590IS Mirroless-SONY NEX-3
Lenses
M42 Mount
Super-Takumar 55/1.8, Super-Takumar 50/1.4 ,SMC Takumar 50/1.4 ,MC Helios 44M7-58/2,MC Helios 77M-4 50/1.8,Helios 44-2(valdai), Zenitar-M 50/1.7 Pentacon 50/1.8, MC Jupiter-37AM 135/3.5, Industar 50-2 50/3.5
Nikon F mount
Vivitar close focus 28/2.8(Komine) Keleinar 5N 100/2.8
LTM
Jupiter 8 50/2
KIEV
Jupiter8M ( element donor lens )
Minolta SR(MD)
MD 35/1.8, MD 35-70/3.5 macro, MD 50/1.4 ,Vivitar Auto macro 55/2.8,
Canon FD
FDn50/1.4
Minolta AF
Vivitar (cosina) 100/3.5 macro
Minolta AF 35-70/4
Enlarger
EL NIKKOR 50/2.8
Adaptall
Tamron 24/2.5 , Tamron sp 90/2.5 |
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raay04
Joined: 08 Dec 2012 Posts: 340 Location: India
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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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raay04 wrote:
made a few studio like portraits for a friend of mine with this lens ,here is one of them shot at F4
_________________ Cameras-Point and shoot- Powershot A590IS Mirroless-SONY NEX-3
Lenses
M42 Mount
Super-Takumar 55/1.8, Super-Takumar 50/1.4 ,SMC Takumar 50/1.4 ,MC Helios 44M7-58/2,MC Helios 77M-4 50/1.8,Helios 44-2(valdai), Zenitar-M 50/1.7 Pentacon 50/1.8, MC Jupiter-37AM 135/3.5, Industar 50-2 50/3.5
Nikon F mount
Vivitar close focus 28/2.8(Komine) Keleinar 5N 100/2.8
LTM
Jupiter 8 50/2
KIEV
Jupiter8M ( element donor lens )
Minolta SR(MD)
MD 35/1.8, MD 35-70/3.5 macro, MD 50/1.4 ,Vivitar Auto macro 55/2.8,
Canon FD
FDn50/1.4
Minolta AF
Vivitar (cosina) 100/3.5 macro
Minolta AF 35-70/4
Enlarger
EL NIKKOR 50/2.8
Adaptall
Tamron 24/2.5 , Tamron sp 90/2.5 |
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nurkov
Joined: 21 Feb 2013 Posts: 711 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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nurkov wrote:
I have got some pictures already seen around here but as I said before really good lens
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http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20133/big_6610_Pentacon_50mm_F28m_1.jpg
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_________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/34787419@N08/
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TrueLoveOne
Joined: 30 Sep 2012 Posts: 1839 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
One of the first MF lenses i ever put on a digital body, and still up there with my favorites! Have them in various versions, and the original Meyer Oreston as well.
Just to show you it can produce nice pics wide open:
White by TrueLoveOne, on Flickr
But you can actually use it anywhere for anything:
de Havilland DH-82A by TrueLoveOne, on Flickr _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
Sony A7, Canon 5D mkII, Minolta 7D + RD3000 and some more.....
Minolta and Konica collector.... slowly selling all the other stuff! |
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fermy
Joined: 17 Feb 2012 Posts: 1974
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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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fermy wrote:
Some great shots in this thread, folks!
I don't know where this reputation that Pentacon 50/1.8 is a meh lens or not sharp wide open came from. It's as good as a good 50/1.8 is supposed to be. The only fault of this lens is still being relatively cheap Some of my shots.
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_________________ Many lenses and some film bodies for sale here: http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-minolta-md-c-mounts-m42-pentax-and-more-t50465.html
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/96060788@N06/ |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7794 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
This isn't my favourite lens by any stretch of the imagination, but I don't dislike it. I just like my other 50's more, so the Pentacon 50 rarely gets used, which is a shame because it's a very solid performer. This picture is just resized, it's ISO400 @ 1/250 - I don't know what aperture. It's sharp, there's no visible fringing ( although other pictures I have from the lens does show fringing but it's not at all excessive and easily removed ) and it's a nicely built lens. What's not too like ?
I like raay04's pictures, show us more. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
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sichko
Joined: 20 Jun 2008 Posts: 2475 Location: South West UK
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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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sichko wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
... IQ and lens performance are far less important than aesthetics and artistic vision when it comes to making beautiful pictures. |
Not everyone shares this view. Some commercial picture buyers and audiences demand a basic technical competence and a minimum image quality before even considering aesthetics and artistic vision.
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I mean, you wouldn't go and stare at the roof of the Cistine Chapel and criticise the brushwork, would you? |
People have criticised the various attempts at restoration which have been carried out over the years. For them, preservation of the original artist's vision, as expressed in the detail, is important. _________________ John |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Ok the Meyer 50mm might not be as sharp as a Nikon, Minolta, Hexanon etc nifty fifty but it never disappoints on film .
_________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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RSalles
Joined: 12 Aug 2012 Posts: 1372 Location: Brazil - RS / South
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:42 am Post subject: |
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RSalles wrote:
Gens,
So many nice pictures...
[]s,
Renato |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:21 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
sichko wrote: |
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
... IQ and lens performance are far less important than aesthetics and artistic vision when it comes to making beautiful pictures. |
Not everyone shares this view. Some commercial picture buyers and audiences demand a basic technical competence and a minimum image quality before even considering aesthetics and artistic vision.
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I mean, you wouldn't go and stare at the roof of the Cistine Chapel and criticise the brushwork, would you? |
People have criticised the various attempts at restoration which have been carried out over the years. For them, preservation of the original artist's vision, as expressed in the detail, is important. |
A lot of people are more interested in the art of photography than boring technical aspects that don't matter much in the real world because most 'normal' viewers would never notice the technical flaws that people on the forum obsess over.
I think it's very wrong to criticise and point out technical imperfections without also assessing the artistic and aesthetic aspects, there must be balance and many people seem to forget that and focus almost exclusively on technical aspects.
When the critic is someone who never posts pictures and only talks about technical aspect that don't matter to most people, the criticism is doubly hard to take.
Let's not lose sight of what's important - the image itself, focusing on tiny technical flaws is a self-defeating exercise. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Mark
Joined: 01 Dec 2012 Posts: 251 Location: Budapest, Hungary
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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Mark wrote:
Bokeh is pleasing, but my copy is not really sharp even at F4. I had to apply lots of sharpening in the following picture. You get, what you pay for. Nevertheless, it is not a bad lens!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qzsv69aXURc/UaImOXtutdI/AAAAAAAAAEc/XY8jKvWk0Ec/s1600/Marks_4_5_crop_2.jpg _________________ Latest post on my blog (no new posts):
http://lightbeam-photography.blogspot.hu/2013/10/sword-lilies.html |
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skida
Joined: 02 Mar 2012 Posts: 1826 Location: North East England
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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skida wrote:
I don't pay a lot for lenses, so I am really happy that the Pentacon 1.8/50 exists, and that the pixel peepers don't like it. I have two copies and I am delighted with the results of both, especially as I have little need to shoot wide open. _________________ Lots of 35mm Film Cameras
Lots of Lenses
New Vlog on Youtube called "The Olduns Shot"
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBHCOHaIrcYr7s3is1EcqxQ |
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Yahvel
Joined: 12 Oct 2012 Posts: 243 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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Yahvel wrote:
nice lens |
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Stenlius
Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Posts: 3 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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Stenlius wrote:
Great lens, this was my first manual focus lens and introduced me the lovely world of old lenses, now I prefer to shoot with manual focus, rather than auto. Mine is sharp from 2.8.
_________________ M42: Pentacon Auto 50mm/1.8; Helios 44m; Revuenon Special 135/2.8 |
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Mark and nurkov - I've changed your pictures to links because they are way too wide for this forum. Max. width is 1024px.
Please repost them if you wish, using the Upload Picture button, and they will be resized automatically.
Thanks
Peter _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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