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Attila
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:48 pm Post subject: Tilt shift in portrait photography |
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Attila wrote:
http://www.michellemooreblog.com/2012/07/03/how-to-succesfully-use-a-tilt-shift-lens-in-portrait-photography/
I didn't found it to useful, what is your opinion? _________________ -------------------------------
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Well, I started with a long reply, but I decided to cut it down to this simple answer:
I didn't like the effect on the pictures shown simply because I felt that something was wrong. _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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Attila
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
me too, I did like tilt shift effect on toy panorama, not sure on other subjects. _________________ -------------------------------
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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2697 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
I think it works in some situations, but not all. Some of those examples are nice but others look a bit strange to me.
Maybe that's just because I haven't seen this before. _________________ Gary
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Attila
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
You can help me to make decision if you find nice examples and share it here, my general overview should be better. _________________ -------------------------------
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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2697 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
There's many examples if you google 'tilt-shift portraiture', again they don't all work for me but some are great. _________________ Gary
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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2697 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
http://www.benjhaisch.com/blog/andrea-tacoma/
I think this one is beautiful.
This one too looks great, to me at least.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pdbfotos/8554967863/ _________________ Gary
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fermy
Joined: 17 Feb 2012 Posts: 1974
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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fermy wrote:
I think the idea to use T-S lens to keep both eyes in focus is a good one. The full frontal portraits with blurred legs though look cheesy and unnatural, I would try to avoid that. _________________ Many lenses and some film bodies for sale here: http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-minolta-md-c-mounts-m42-pentax-and-more-t50465.html
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
I have two thoughts -- the modern T/S usage gives a vague, strange sensation, often, the way the equipment is typically used. Like anything else, too much of it is too much; a little goes a long way. Well done, using such can make a photograph.
Second, in the olden days tilt and shift were common in view cameras. There the DOF was a bit deeper and in harmony with the size of the film. I think the masters would use these tools in subtle (or less subtle) ways to put the focus exactly where they wanted it. _________________ -Jussi
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Bob van Sikorski
Joined: 12 Jan 2009 Posts: 287 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Bob van Sikorski wrote:
simply: portraits are best, if they look natural. those doesnt. _________________ Rokkor (MD 45/2.0, MC PF 50/1.7), Porst Color Reflex MC Auto 55/1.2, Jupiter 135/3.5
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hoanpham
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
they are over done to illustrate the point. _________________ La migliore cura di LBA � imparare una nuova lingua. Le meilleur rem�de de LBA est d'apprendre une nouvelle langue. La mejor cura del LBA es aprender una nueva lengua. |
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:00 pm Post subject: Re: Tilt shift in portrait photography |
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Orio wrote:
Attila wrote: |
http://www.michellemooreblog.com/2012/07/03/how-to-succesfully-use-a-tilt-shift-lens-in-portrait-photography/
I didn't found it to useful, what is your opinion? |
Overused trick, if you look at album covers from the 90s it's already there, and it soon became old fashioned even then.
(besides, it takes less than one minute to replicate that in Photoshop, no need for expensive tiltshift equipment). _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Laurence
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
Interesting how we can have two divergent opinions. To me, my mind sort of
'jumped' when the image came up and showed the narrow band of focus across
her eyes. But looking at the nose and lips - they just don't look right to me.
Of course, that is just my opinion, and I can certainly relate to your feeling about
it. (and my opinions are never wrong... ) _________________
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kds315*
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Not for me either. It is about the effect, not the portrait. _________________ Klaus - Admin
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fermy
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:38 am Post subject: |
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fermy wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
Not for me either. It is about the effect, not the portrait. |
That depends on the photographer, doesn't it? Here's a pretty good one...
PC-E Micro 45mm f/2,8 (Tilt-shift) by René Bang, on Flickr
Amalia by Aryan Aqajani, on Flickr
Maxima by Aryan Aqajani, on Flickr _________________ Many lenses and some film bodies for sale here: http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-minolta-md-c-mounts-m42-pentax-and-more-t50465.html
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Nesster
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:55 am Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
those are nicer examples.
Of course this discussion got me over to Rainbowimaging and I walked out with a Canon/Nex tilt adapter, plus M42 and PK to Canon adapters (the Canon tilt adapter is a 'universal' base, Canon lenses will vignette but anything you can adapt to Canon goes on the tilt)... and a P645 to PK adapter for good measure. I suppose now I'll have to put them to use. _________________ -Jussi
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Minolfan
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:32 am Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
Nesster wrote: |
I suppose now I'll have to put them to use |
So you have some plans for good use?
You make me curious!
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Nesster
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:05 am Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
In the mail...
http://www.rainbowimaging.biz/shop/product.php?id_product=422 _________________ -Jussi
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Attila
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
These are one of the best what I seen until now, thank you Fermy! _________________ -------------------------------
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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2697 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:33 am Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
Found another article about this over at F-stoppers.
http://fstoppers.com/my-new-favorite-lens-is-not-found-in-very-many-photographer-bags _________________ Gary
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