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fish4570
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fish4570 wrote:
Which one?
http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.asp?ItemID=6417614
http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.asp?ItemID=6429152
http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.asp?ItemID=6438394
http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.asp?ItemID=6453489
I have a roll of 120 Ektar 100 and would like to use it ... 
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Spotmatic
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| Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
I'd choose either the Ricoh or the Yashica. Both seem very fine picture takers,
But about the Voigtlander: the Brillants are not very popular but I know that some have been offered with the famous 5-element Heliar. I cannot see which lens is on this camera but I do see that there's a Compur shutter on it. The Compurs were the top of the line so why use an expensive shutter with a cheap lens... Also buy it if it has the 4-element Skopar.
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fish4570
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| Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
Thanks, Spot. The ad says it has a Voigtar lens.
Goooooooooooooooo Oranje!
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Spotmatic
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| Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
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Thanks, Spot. The ad says it has a Voigtar lens.
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Then I'd drop this one in favor of the Ricoh/Yashica, and I would lean to the Ricoh because I don't hear much about the Diacords at all.
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My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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fish4570
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| Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
Har! 
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Minolfan
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| Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
I think too that the Ricoh and the Yashica are the most attractive ones. I use Yashica Mat and Rolleicord IVb. The Yashica has a lot clearer viewfinder. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
I have both the Diacord and a Yashica Mat, though not this model. I think either will be excellent, I really love my Diacord more than the Mat, I think the lens may be a wee bit better. Both have about equivalent brightness in view finder.
The Diacord's one 'failing' is that attaching a cable release isn't always easy - theoretically it takes a Leica nipple but in practice on some there's not really enough thread.
That's a Yashica LM which should be well made, from the mid 50's. It has a light meter built in, the diacord does not.
Here's an ad for the LM, from '56
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
The Diacord pictured in the Goodwill sales has the meter, it's the same camera as my Ricohflex Dia L. |
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fish4570
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| Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:41 am Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
What do you think of the photos in the ad, Bill?
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cooltouch
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| Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 3:46 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
My vote's for the Yashica. The LM has the earlier Yashicor lens than the later Mat-series Yashinon, which is allegedly better, but I suspect the differences are slight.
My Mat 124 takes amazingly sharp photos, and since I have experience with a Yashica TLR, I'm naturally inclined to prefer it.
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:28 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
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| What do you think of the photos in the ad, Bill? |
If you're talking about Jussi's pic of an advert, I think it's great! (Gee, I hope
I said that right. ;o))
I really like my Yashica A. The Ricohflex is certainly a sharper lens with
better coating, but I find the levers on the front plate for focusing not all
that handy, and I know it's probably just me. Jussi certainly gets better
results with his Diacord than I ever had with mine. So, my vote would be
for the Yashica, too. |
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:39 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Another TLR to think about is the Minolta Autocord. I've seen pix at RFF
from these that compare quite favorably to a Planar-equipped Rolleiflex.
Rokkors rokk! They are a little more pricey, however. |
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nemesis101
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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nemesis101 wrote:
Think you need to revise the posting title?
Isn't this about TLR (Twins Lens Reflexes) rather than TTL (Through The Lens...) which apart from pin-hole cameras all cameras are? lol
Doug
PS I have a Diacord G and LOVE it.. especially the nifty focus levers which are much easier to operate than turning a lens....
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fish4570
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
Yes, Doug. What a dork I am ...
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fish4570
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fish4570 wrote:
I think I will pass on the Diacord. I just looked closely at the photos again, and that thing has been ridden hard. The Yashica has a much better appearance, which MAY mean it has not been used much. I used a Y 124 at the first two small newspapers for which I worked 36-37 years ago ...
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
I corrected the title
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fish4570
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
I thought I did after Doug's catch.
Strange ... 
And thanks.
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fish4570
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fish4570 wrote:
24 hours left on the auction. No has bid but me in two days. I expect that will change soon ...
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fish4570
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fish4570 wrote:
I let the Yashica go. $35 was my limit. The Diacord is still available but I figure it will pass $50 ...
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brokenboy wrote:
I have a Minolta Autocord and a Ricoh Diacord
The Minolta wins on ease of use and produces stunning photos, the lens is just brilliant from about 5.6 (wide open it is fine) - i have one with a meter and this works just fine (tested against my lightmeter)
Just remember to push the focusing lever to the left or right before you open the back to change film, so you don't bend it with the hinge.
The Ricoh focusing is a little weird but you get used to it, the photos have been very sharp - my selenium light meter on this works pretty well, only occassionally getting stuck. I really like both of them.
The Minolta can be pricey but is amazing, the Ricoh is the bargain though - way more than the Yashica.
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| Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
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| I let the Yashica go. $35 was my limit. The Diacord is still available but I figure it will pass $50 ... |
So did you wind up with any of them?
Personally I think the Yashica LM was a steal at $47. I paid more than twice that for my 124, and was glad to get it at that price.
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fish4570
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fish4570 wrote:
Yes, thanks to Bill, I am working with a Yashica A. I have shot one roll and developed it, but my scanner went down. Still awaiting scanner replacement. I think I will get a roll of c-41 color so I don't have to depend on a scanner for posting ...
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
I have a roll of Arista 100 in my Yashica A I need to shoot. Looking forward
to those color shots, Paul. I'd recommend Reala 100, but Freestyle prices
have shot up on that film, which was rumored to be discontinued. |
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fish4570 wrote:
I will probably get some Ektar or something like that locally ...
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