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LittleAlex
Joined: 27 Nov 2008 Posts: 1680 Location: L'vov (Western Ukraine)
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:26 am Post subject: The Topogon – what is this lens? |
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LittleAlex wrote:
Un the antic shop I bought the strange lens. It consists from two parts. Do somebody has any idea for what it might be?
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:26 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Might be for old wooden box cameras _________________ -------------------------------
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Sevo
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 1189 Location: Frankfurt, Germany
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:55 am Post subject: |
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Sevo wrote:
WWII aerial lens. Not a exciting one, though, except for its sheer size and history (being one of the first Topogon designs). It is a Topogon type wide angle with 30x30cm coverage but rather strong light falloff, is slow at f/6.3, compared to the relatively popular narrow angle aerials (which often have f/3.5 or more), and the lens vade mecum lists it as "disappointing when converted to civilian use".
As usual, yours is missing the camera (which was built into recon planes) and (electric) shutter. IMHO a paperweight rather than a user item. |
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LittleAlex
Joined: 27 Nov 2008 Posts: 1680 Location: L'vov (Western Ukraine)
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:39 am Post subject: |
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LittleAlex wrote:
Sevo wrote: |
IMHO a paperweight rather than a user item. |
Well.. But might be it is the collectible one, perhaps?
I paid for it a whole amount, equal to $8. So, I do try to find some practical use for it. _________________ "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept" - © H. Cartier Bresson |
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Abbazz
Joined: 23 Jun 2007 Posts: 1098 Location: Jakarta
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:52 am Post subject: |
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Abbazz wrote:
Marco Cavina has all you always wanted to know about the Topogon:
http://www.luciolepri.it/lc2/marcocavina/articoli_fotografici/Hypergon_Topogon_Biogon_Hologon/00_pag.htm
Cheers!
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Have you noticed the two huge Biogons that he owns?
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epatsellis
Joined: 02 Nov 2008 Posts: 7
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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epatsellis wrote:
Alex,
If you decide you dont' have a use for it, let me know, I've got a few ideas for some metrogons and topogons that I'd like to try on my 8x10 camera.
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16627 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Have you noticed the two huge Biogons that he owns?
super-drool !! |
Had you looked a bit more careful, you would have noticed that Marco does NOT own these lenses. He wanted to do that article and searched for pictures, so he got most of them from me. These are lenses Thomas Müller and I own (resp. have owned); we both share a hobby for highest resolution lenses.
About the 6.3/20cm Topogon, that was made by Busch in licence from Carl Zeiss Jena and carries a non-Zeiss serial number. A problem to assemble the lens halves to a working lens will be the correct lens spacing which is quite critical for that design. _________________ Klaus - Admin
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epatsellis
Joined: 02 Nov 2008 Posts: 7
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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epatsellis wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
About the 6.3/20cm Topogon, that was made by Busch in licence from Carl Zeiss Jena and carries a non-Zeiss serial number. A problem to assemble the lens halves to a working lens will be the correct lens spacing which is quite critical for that design. |
Unless, of course, one uses it in a barrel, and a suitably large opening packard or Sinar Shutter (I have and use both), preserving cell spacing.
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16627 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
preserving which spacing? You know how much?? _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Sevo
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 1189 Location: Frankfurt, Germany
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:00 am Post subject: |
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Sevo wrote:
That is the big snag - AFAIK these things were mounted in a camera that was built into an airplane body, the pictures of complete ones I have seen had every trace of being cut out with a saw. You'd probably have to get hold of a physical complete specimen to measure the flange distance to rear and front. |
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