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Yep, I'm not going to begrudge a break. That's been quite a run of shows. Thanks. I'll keep my ear out on the 3rd. |
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itsfozzy
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Episode 32 Nikon Zee 6 & 7 Emergency Podcast
We've cut our two week break short as we had to come back to talk about the new full frame Mirrorless cameras and Z mount just launched by Nikon. |
Another quality episode. Great work.
A few points.
* Agree completely that the Tony & Chelsea Northrup video (linked above) is a must-watch for anyone considering this camera. They truly wanted to like it. They very much did not.
* Johnny (incorrectly)  states that a professional has no need of dual card slots as they'd notice a failure immediately and swap cards. While it's true that most should notice quickly, that doesn't solve the issue. Cards can and do fail outright, rendering the entire contents unusable, including all previously taken shots. Is it worth losing a day's wage and customer's ire due to a wonky card? Especially when solutions abound that entirely solve this problem?
If a photog in 2018 offered to shoot my event with a single slot camera, we'd be looking for another photog. No different than a solicitor who boasted that they didn't bother with pesky data backups. Irresponsible in both cases.
* While XQD is a bit faster, SD is nearly there. Color me dubious as to whether the Z7 could actually manage to write data at the 400MBps that Sony's XQD cards promise. My strong suspicion is that that SD would have offered identical, or nearly identical performance.
So why XQD? Quite suspicious that Sony is the only maker of XQD. The more conspiracy minded might wonder if there were some quid pro quo between Sony and Nikon. Cards for Sensors? But Nikon makes their own sensors??? "Of course" they do. And pull the other one.
* And sad to say Simon, but according to Nikon the name of the cameras (even in the UK) will be Zee-Six and Zee-Seven. Not Zed-Six and Zed-Seven. Another round of Americanization blights British vocabulary. |
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Sciolist
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The best objective review of the new Nikon's I've found so far. The youtube jocks seem to be all over the place with it, and strangely many repenting their remarks the following day - Nikon been on the phone to them?
What's in the back of my mind is that Sony started off making not so perfect cameras and used the method of bringing out new updated iterations so quick the old (flawed) camera never had a chance to sink into the public consciousness Eventually they were making good cameras, and that has stuck with the public. Perhaps this is the route Nikon will have to take on their latest mirrorless adventure.
Anyway. Nice job peeps. |
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itsfozzy
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itsfozzy wrote:
Thank you Sciolist and Olinask!
The card slot thing is interesting to me because personally it's not a big deal as a manual lens hobby user. That's not to say that there would not be a time where loosing a certain shot would be close to a disaster, such as a wedding I was forced to do last year (using manual lenses you'll be glad to hear). For those people that combine their hobby with their business, I can see the "belt and braces" approach to two card slots.
I think the attitude that Karl and I share (and possibly Johnny), is that the Z6 & 7 are not "Pro" cameras. That's not to say that pro photographers will not or cannot use them, because clearly they will. For me, there are only 2 true pro FF cameras on the market and they are the D5 and 1DS III, with the A9 snapping at their heals.
As for XQD only, I find that very puzzling. As I said in the podcast, I also own a Nikon D500 which I use with my only AF lens for birding, and I've never hit the buffer shooting RAW at 10fps and using a 90MB/s SD card. My theory is that they could not shrink the internals enough to fit a second slot, so they "covered their tracks" by using a "superior" technology. I've heard it said that a second slot would have meant the camera would need to be larger, which in my view is an admission that they are behind Sony in terms of miniaturisation seeing that the A7 III cameras are both smaller than the Z bodies and have twin slots.
Finally, they can stick "zee" where the sun doesn't shine as far as I'm concerned (in the UK)!
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DConvert
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DConvert wrote:
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Finally, they can stick "zee" where the sun doesn't shine as far as I'm concerned (in the UK)! |
+1 if they want it called Zee they need to spell it out, it's NOT what the letter is! |
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Sciolist
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Sciolist wrote:
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Finally, they can stick "zee" where the sun doesn't shine as far as I'm concerned (in the UK)! |
Karl and Johnny with their old fashioned Somerset 'zee'. I think it's quaint. You leave them alone Foster, their language wasn't enriched by colonialism like ours was. They're basically stuck with 17th C English and spellings like Tire.
It's nice to hear what we must have sounded like once. |
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itsfozzy
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itsfozzy wrote:
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Finally, they can stick "zee" where the sun doesn't shine as far as I'm concerned (in the UK)! |
Karl and Johnny with their old fashioned Somerset 'zee'. I think it's quaint. You leave them alone Foster, their language wasn't enriched by colonialism like ours was. They're basically stuck with 17th C English and spellings like Tire.
It's nice to hear what we must have sounded like once.
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This was an informative and entertaining podcast - thank you.
Ade was looking hard for a 35mm lens for his Fuji digital.
Several were mentioned and the Canon LTMs were recommended.
For around the same price I really think he would be better off with the Fujinon Super EBC 35mm f1.4
It is a splendid lens which can be used manually if desired.
Fast, sharp from wide open with lovely bokeh.
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itsfozzy
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itsfozzy wrote:
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This was an informative and entertaining podcast - thank you.
Ade was looking hard for a 35mm lens for his Fuji digital.
Several were mentioned and the Canon LTMs were recommended.
For around the same price I really think he would be better off with the Fujinon Super EBC 35mm f1.4
It is a splendid lens which can be used manually if desired.
Fast, sharp from wide open with lovely bokeh.
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Thank you Tom, we had a lot of fun with Ade.
As always, after the vent other lenses come to mind, but that's they way it goes. We actually came in for some criticism for "ignoring" the 7Artisans 35/2. One day we will get everything right in an episode...
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Oldhand wrote:
Thanks again Johnny.
I enjoyed the banter but also Em's contribution regarding film.
I had no idea that there were 180 film brands available.
The links to Emulsive are also illuminating.
Cheers
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itsfozzy wrote:
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Thanks again Johnny.
I enjoyed the banter but also Em's contribution regarding film.
I had no idea that there were 180 film brands available.
The links to Emulsive are also illuminating.
Cheers
Tom |
Thank you Tom!
I'm Simon BTW
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Oldhand wrote:
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Thanks again Johnny.
I enjoyed the banter but also Em's contribution regarding film.
I had no idea that there were 180 film brands available.
The links to Emulsive are also illuminating.
Cheers
Tom |
Thank you Tom!
I'm Simon BTW |
Oops - yes, I knew that.
Never type a response after a glass of vino.
DOH! |
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Sciolist wrote:
Thanks for putting it up Karl. Tomioka next week? I'll look forward to that.
One of legacy lenses biggest headaches is trying to work out who was making what for whom. |
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itsfozzy
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itsfozzy wrote:
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Thanks for putting it up Karl. Tomioka next week? I'll look forward to that.
One of legacy lenses biggest headaches is trying to work out who was making what for whom. |
We've touched upon Tomioka a couple of times, but I know Cheyenne has possibly spent even more time than me on this subject, so it should make for an interesting chat. No doubt we will also talk about another shared interest, Contax/Yashica lenses.
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No episode this week?
I hope nothing untoward has happened to any of the lads. |
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itsfozzy wrote:
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No episode this week?
I hope nothing untoward has happened to any of the lads. |
I should have put a post up here. Here's a link to the "announcement" on Facebook... https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156877366256995&set=gm.2172775086270701&type=3&theater&ifg=1
The short answer is that swapping my USB mic 10 minutes into the recording caused the software to only record one voice. I'm still trying to put this disaster behind me...
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Ah! Thanks for replying Simon. These things happen. The main thing is that it wasn't due to a 'life or limb' issue.
2hrs 20 of chat produced on your tod? You'd be handy for parties . |
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itsfozzy wrote:
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Ah! Thanks for replying Simon. These things happen. The main thing is that it wasn't due to a 'life or limb' issue.
2hrs 20 of chat produced on your tod? You'd be handy for parties . |
It was the greatest podcast in history, but nobody will believe me now.
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Sciolist wrote:
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It was the greatest podcast in history, but nobody will believe me now. |
Looks like you'd be great for fishing trips too. The one that got away, eh? Good luck for next week, man. |
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itsfozzy wrote:
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It was the greatest podcast in history, but nobody will believe me now. |
Looks like you'd be great for fishing trips too. The one that got away, eh? Good luck for next week, man. |
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