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luisalegria
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 Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:15 am Post subject: Tamron Duo-Tamron 135/4.5 Exakta - The first Tamron ! |
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luisalegria wrote:
This is supposedly the first Tamron lens ever (Model 280). Or perhaps it is the first lens made by Taisei Kogaku that was marketed as a Tamron ?
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.tamron.co.jp/data/old-lens/olm135f4_5.htm
At any rate, this tiny lens, first sold in 1958, is the first. It was actually a set, consisting of the lens, hood and a matched teleconverter, to make the assembled unit a 225mm f/7.7. But when I aquired this used, long ago, this one no longer had the TC.
Interesting points :
- This thing is TINY. Its obvious that it was intended as a sort of coat-pocket accessory for an SLR, and its TC wouldn't have added much to the size.
- This does NOT have a T-mount, even though the Adaptall site says it does. The lens thread is M37x.75, not M42x.75, the adapter depth is smaller than a t-mount lens, hence the flange focal distance is smaller.
left - t-mount / right - Duo-Tamron mount
All the ones I have seen are apparently like mine, so its some other lens that was the first t-mount lens. The adapter was obviously designed along the same lines as a t-mount (or a t2-mount?), with a rotating insert and setscrews of very similar design. I have seen these in M42, obviously just having a different adapter.
- These were sold in the black "zebra" finish as this one, as well as an aluminum/chrome finish under a dealers brand.
Its a very conventional preset lens otherwise, rather handsome in nicely executed gloss enamel and aluminum/chrome. I got mine used (back when I was young and there were used camera stores), and already suffering from wear and tarnish, though it is otherwise completely functional. Its minimum focus is just 6 feet/2m, though thats understandable considering its size.
I mounted it on my Pentax with the Exakta->PK adapter, and it does not give infinity of course, but it gets to about 30 ft/10m, so its somewhat useful. Its quite a sharp lens for what it is, and its quite sharp wide open, high contrast but some propensity to flare (albeit it has an excellent hood).
Yet another bird -
crop -
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
I love the subtle tones. Nice bokeh.
Lens of 1958?
I was born in november of 1958. Both olds? 
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CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
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Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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luisalegria
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| Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Somos de la misma epoca !
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trifox
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trifox wrote:
I have to say this again ---
you are superb!!
You can have ANY lens -- the result is the same!
thanks for sharing...
tf |
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Farside
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| Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
I honestly don't know there's any point in you testing lenses, Luis, because you can take any old lump of rough glass and produce some cracking results.
Otoh, perhaps the results you get are somewhere close to what the makers claimed when they were new - they must have based their claims on something other than wishful thinking.
You've certainly suprised me with your pics from lenses that have only produced some very mediocre results in the hands of others. It only goes to show what can be done in the right hands.
Great stuff; keep it up.  |
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Orio
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Orio wrote:
Wow, the first one and perhaps the best one? 
Excellent clarity and bokeh.
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estudleon
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:55 am Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
[quote="luisalegria"]Somos de la misma epoca ![/quote]
Si? pero me gustaría tener también tu talento.
Lindas fotos y sorprendente lente.
Rino
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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F16SUNSHINE
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
I must agree with Rino. You are truly talented.
This lens is in very good hands.
I can't believe how good some of these old Dinosaurs look compared to the new plastic fantastics.
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:38 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Superb results, Luis! (As usual) |
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