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AhamB
Joined: 22 Jun 2008 Posts: 733 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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AhamB wrote:
Lichtstrom wrote: |
I compared the older one a while ago on the Canon EOS 5D at f2 with the Planar 50/1.4 C/Y MM, the Zuiko 55/1.2, the Nikkor 50/1.2 AI-S (not AI like written in the picture) at close distance. The Summicron won by far. |
It's a known fact that the Planar 50/1.4 is weak at close distance. It really shines at longer focus distances where it beats most of the competition. |
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metallaro1980
Joined: 10 Sep 2009 Posts: 385 Location: West Emilia - Fidenza (PR) 43036 - Italy
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:13 am Post subject: |
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metallaro1980 wrote:
the absurd thing is this:
a 2/50 costs more than 1.4/50
6 elements costs more than 7 elements
if you must use 1.4 to take a shot with summicron you grab on to the tram
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Olympus OM: 28 2.8, 35 2.8, 50 1.8 Made in Japan
Contax: 50 1.4, 85 1.4
Zeiss: 135 2.0 Apo-Sonnar ZE
Leica-R: 180 3.4 Apo-Telyt-R (Leitax)
Rollei QBM: 135 2.8 Rolleinar (Leitax), 50 1.4 HFT
Canon: 50 1.8, 40 2.8
M42: Helios 50 2.0, Jupiter-37A, Jupiter-21 200 4.0
Binocular: Hensoldt & Wetzlar DF 8x30
http://andreaverdi.altervista.org/ Vivaldi lives in my lenses.... |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:57 am Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Well there must be something in it or it wouldn't be so damn expensive
Mal, I'm glad you're enjoying your new lens _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
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metallaro1980
Joined: 10 Sep 2009 Posts: 385 Location: West Emilia - Fidenza (PR) 43036 - Italy
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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metallaro1980 wrote:
I remember a scene of a film: police accademy 5
when Nick Lassard write dork on Harris' brest ....
ahahahahahah _________________
Olympus OM: 28 2.8, 35 2.8, 50 1.8 Made in Japan
Contax: 50 1.4, 85 1.4
Zeiss: 135 2.0 Apo-Sonnar ZE
Leica-R: 180 3.4 Apo-Telyt-R (Leitax)
Rollei QBM: 135 2.8 Rolleinar (Leitax), 50 1.4 HFT
Canon: 50 1.8, 40 2.8
M42: Helios 50 2.0, Jupiter-37A, Jupiter-21 200 4.0
Binocular: Hensoldt & Wetzlar DF 8x30
http://andreaverdi.altervista.org/ Vivaldi lives in my lenses.... |
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krankykraut
Joined: 28 Oct 2009 Posts: 25 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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krankykraut wrote:
You gotta be careful which version of the Summicron you're talking about. I used to have the first version. It was a great lens in almost all respects, but the color rendition was paler (more pale?) than my 28mm 2.8 Elmarit (2nd version). So much so that in a series of images taken of the same subject in the same light it was very noticeable. I sold that lens and got myself the second version Summicron. Colors are much more vivid and generally match the colors I get from the Elmarit. _________________ Nikon, Canon, Pentax , Konica, Minox, Yashica, Minolta, Pentacon... |
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sir_c
Joined: 07 Dec 2008 Posts: 67 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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sir_c wrote:
krankykraut wrote: |
You gotta be careful which version of the Summicron you're talking about. I used to have the first version. It was a great lens in almost all respects, but the color rendition was paler (more pale?) than my 28mm 2.8 Elmarit (2nd version). So much so that in a series of images taken of the same subject in the same light it was very noticeable. I sold that lens and got myself the second version Summicron. Colors are much more vivid and generally match the colors I get from the Elmarit. |
I second that. I have both the 1st and 2nd version of the Summicron 50 and the latter gives much, much better sharpness and colour rendition. The old one lacks contrast and gives more mushy shadows, it requires stopping down for really good sharpness.
Zeiss and Leica walk different roads regarding lens character; just look up some images of both and see what suits your needs/desires best.
My Planar gives bright colours and contrasty 3D images, as if someone put a sticker on the photo. The Leica provides more minute detail and more subtle tonals. Its bokeh is more well-behaved.
The Zeiss is not so forgiving if you miss focus or choose an inappropriate background and the Cron is a better workhorse.
Frankly, I think the Summilux is a better comparison to the Planar 1.4, not just because it has the same speed, but also because of its quirks: its bokeh can be interesting at times and the hit or miss is more pronounced, like the Planar does. _________________
Fujifilm: X-T1 Graphite Silver
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Asahi Pentax (M42): - Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 24mm f/3.5, Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 28mm f/3.5, Super-Takumar 35mm f/3.5, Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 35mm f/3.5, Super-Takumar 50mm f/1.4, SMC Takumar 50mm f/1.4, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-Takumar 50mm f/4, Super-Takumar 55mm f/1.8, SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8, SMC Takumar 55mm f/2, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-Takumar 100mm f/4, Auto-Takumar 105mm f/2.8, Super-Takumar 135mm f/3.5
Asahi Pentax (P/K): - SMC Pentax-M 50mm f/2, Takumar (bayonet) 135mm f/2.5
Carl Zeiss (C/Y): - Planar 50mm f/1.7, Planar 50mm f/1.4, Sonnar 135mm f/2.8, Planar 85mm f/1.4
Carl Zeiss Jena: - Aus Jena T 50mm f/2.8, Flektogon 35mm f/2.8, Flektogon 35mm f/2.4
Leica: - Elmarit-R 35mm f/2.8, Elmarit-R 90mm f/2.8, Elmarit-R 135mm f/2.8, Summicron-R 50mm f/2, Summilux-R 50mm f/1.4
Mamiya/Sekor: - Auto 50mm f/2, SX 55mm f/1.8, Macro Sekor 60mm f/2.8, SX 135mm f/2.8
Pentacon: - Auto 29mm f/2.8, Auto MC 50mm f/1.8, Auto 135mm f/2.8
Misc: - Meyer-Optik Görlitz Orestegor 200mm f/4, Petri Auto CC 55mm f/1.8, Soligor Tele Auto 300mm f/5.5
Russian: - Helios 44M-6 58mm f/2, Jupiter-9 85mm f/2, Tair 11A 135mm f/2.8
Tokina: - (P/K) RMC EMZ 70-210mm f/4.5
Yashica: - Auto 50mm f/2 (preset), DX 50mm f/1.7
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