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ramcewan
Joined: 02 Mar 2012 Posts: 198 Location: New England, USA
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:32 pm Post subject: some flowers turned into oil paintings in gimp... |
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ramcewan wrote:
shot with the 50mm f1.8 Hexanon
original shot, jpeg from the E-PL2, focus not ideal with only a thin slice in focus
P5283349 by ramcewan, on Flickr
Oil painting filter applied to raw and cropped;
P5283349_oilified by ramcewan, on Flickr
This seems a fun and interesting way to turn a shot with missed focus into an interesting image. All the other major software has similar effects. _________________ Olympus e-pl2 with VF-2
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ramcewan
Joined: 02 Mar 2012 Posts: 198 Location: New England, USA
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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ramcewan wrote:
another pair, this time shot with the jupiter-8
out of camera JPEG
P5263317 by ramcewan, on Flickr
Oil painting version (also boosted saturation) from the raw
P5263317_oil by ramcewan, on Flickr _________________ Olympus e-pl2 with VF-2
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:44 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Not bad,are you using the free version of gimp? _________________ Moira, Moderator
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Lena
Joined: 24 Apr 2012 Posts: 495 Location: Pl
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:35 am Post subject: |
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Lena wrote:
I played with this filter too, gives interesting results especially with landscapes |
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eddieitman
Joined: 12 Apr 2011 Posts: 1246 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:40 am Post subject: |
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eddieitman wrote:
Works well on the 1st image, not sure about the 2nd one, seems oversaturated in some of the pink areas. _________________ My web site www.digital-darkroom.weebly.com
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ramcewan
Joined: 02 Mar 2012 Posts: 198 Location: New England, USA
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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ramcewan wrote:
mo wrote: |
Not bad,are you using the free version of gimp? |
I thought all versions of gimp were free?
I am using GIMP 2.6 and I think the latest version of Ufraw _________________ Olympus e-pl2 with VF-2
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Orio
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
If I put side by side the original photo and the "oil" version, I choose the original photo 100% of the times.
Oily effects always feel like a diminution of the original to me.
Besides, especially the first one is a very good photo.
I can't see the reason to make up a beautiful 18 years old girl
If instead you take a 60 years old woman, I can see a reason for the makeup _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Kram
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1344 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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Kram wrote:
+1
Just looks like cheap digital wankery. Why not learn how to paint?
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skida
Joined: 02 Mar 2012 Posts: 1826 Location: North East England
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:53 am Post subject: |
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skida wrote:
Kram wrote: |
Just looks like cheap digital wankery. Why not learn how to paint?
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+1.
I think that most photos improve with a few tweaks in PP, but most effect filters are as Kram described. There is no art in one click effects. |
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mo
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:16 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
ramcewan wrote: |
mo wrote: |
Not bad,are you using the free version of gimp? |
I thought all versions of gimp were free?
I am using GIMP 2.6 and I think the latest version of Ufraw |
They probably are. I always assume when it comes to software there is a free version then a paid version? _________________ Moira, Moderator
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ramcewan
Joined: 02 Mar 2012 Posts: 198 Location: New England, USA
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:31 am Post subject: |
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ramcewan wrote:
kram and skida,
thanks for stopping by and sharing your opinion. If I may;
1. This is not a one-click effect (at least not in GIMP), it takes trial and error tweaking of the settings and what not, to describe it as a "one-click effect" is neither accurate nor informed. It also shows that you have never tried these filters or else you would not speak in such an ignorant fashion of the effort that goes into one of these.
2. Likewise who gave you the gavel and told you to judge what is art? There are those would say that there is no art in taking a photograph with a digital camera, those who would say there is no art in using a film camera, etc. They like you are locked in a box of your own construction looking down upon others and telling them what they do is not art. Please give it a rest, art is creation and your unkind words do not take that away.
3. Ditto the "digital wankery" comment. To some people everything done with a digital camera is "digital wankery", but only those who are unable to see beyond the box they drew for themselves come out and say it.
4. I personally find that there is something interesting in this process in the deconstruction of the digital image into it's colors and shapes. Perhaps you are too busy taking pictures of brick walls and marveling at the sharpness of your lenses to notice a picture is so much more than the rendering of ever finer detail? _________________ Olympus e-pl2 with VF-2
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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2697 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
I have no idea how much work went into achieving this effect, be it 1 click or 1000 clicks, but I think the point is irrelevant. The fact remains that a reasonably pleasant picture has not been improved, IMHO quite the opposite. (sorry)
Again, I don't know how much time was spent doing this but there are plenty of 1-click effects on mobile apps which give the same results and none of them will ever win awards.
I don't think Kram and skida were being deliberately rude, neither am I, and surely you would prefer people here to be honest in their opinions rather than lie to you.
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ramcewan
Joined: 02 Mar 2012 Posts: 198 Location: New England, USA
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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ramcewan wrote:
SonicScot wrote: |
I have no idea how much work went into achieving this effect, be it 1 click or 1000 clicks, but I think the point is irrelevant. The fact remains that a reasonably pleasant picture has not been improved, IMHO quite the opposite. (sorry) |
thank you for sharing your opinion in a non demeaning way.
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I don't think Kram and skida were being deliberately rude, neither am I, and surely you would prefer people here to be honest in their opinions rather than lie to you.
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I always want people to be honest. I don't think you are being deliberately rude, however both comments by Kram and Skida were objectively sarcastic and demeaning. Honestly if you don't like something then just say you don't like it, don't call it names
Kram wrote: |
cheap digital wankery... |
and label it as "non-art"
skida wrote: |
...There is no art in one click effects. |
My reply was to address these comments directly and question their appropriateness. You'll note I did not include Orio, who also did not care for the effect, in my reply since his post was constructive and positive. _________________ Olympus e-pl2 with VF-2
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DigiChromeEd
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 3462 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
I like the effect you've achieved in #1 but #2 is too over-saturated for my taste. I've seen landscapes subjected to this sort of treatment and some are very well done resulting in a watercolour effect which I like. (I'd love to be able to paint but I can't - therefore I depend on software to give me the results I want). _________________ "I've got a Nikon camera, I like to take a photograph" - Paul Simon |
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nemesis101
Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Posts: 2050 Location: Oregon USA
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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nemesis101 wrote:
Is there a paid one? I thought it was 'free as in beer' under the Linux /GNU GPL....
mo wrote: |
Not bad,are you using the free version of gimp? |
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skida
Joined: 02 Mar 2012 Posts: 1826 Location: North East England
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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skida wrote:
No sarcasm was intended in my post and I am sorry that you took it that way. However it was a sincerely expressed opinion. I did try using GIMP a while back but found it not very user friendly - if you get results you like out of that program then you have my respect.
My "one click" comment was based on my experience of effects filters in PS Elements, where I tried something similar with some of my shots. |
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BruceB
Joined: 28 Feb 2009 Posts: 32
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:08 pm Post subject: PhotoShop "Fade" |
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BruceB wrote:
One of the best functions of PhotoShop IMO is the ability to "fade" any applied effect if I feel it's too strong - and often I do. My experience with special effects is that sometimes a smidgen can enhance a finished, posted photo.
I don't know if GIMP has a similar "fade" edit function or not. _________________ Bruce Burton
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ramcewan
Joined: 02 Mar 2012 Posts: 198 Location: New England, USA
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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ramcewan wrote:
skida wrote: |
No sarcasm was intended in my post and I am sorry that you took it that way. However it was a sincerely expressed opinion. I did try using GIMP a while back but found it not very user friendly - if you get results you like out of that program then you have my respect.
My "one click" comment was based on my experience of effects filters in PS Elements, where I tried something similar with some of my shots. |
thanks, sorry if I went off too much.. I have a teenage daughter and sometimes my temper is a bit on edge _________________ Olympus e-pl2 with VF-2
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skida
Joined: 02 Mar 2012 Posts: 1826 Location: North East England
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:59 am Post subject: |
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skida wrote:
And I in turn should apologise for my too brief comment, which was made after seeing similarly treated photos in a certain "lifestyle" retail warehouse on sale for stupid money.
I think the treatment you did works best on number one and the result could be useful as a picture for the wall. |
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