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Laurence
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 Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:08 pm Post subject: Soligor 35-70 C/D 2.5-3.5 |
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Laurence wrote:
Spent an hour this afternoon on lunch break, fooling around with the Soligor 35-70 on my K110D (M42 adapter).
This lens was "in the bottom of the box" and was included with the Vivitar 90/2.5 Macro that I picked up last month. I decided I'd better screw it onto my camera and at least give it a chance.
Overall, I think it does pretty well. One thing that DID surprise me was the color - absolutely true to what I was seeing. Sharpness is not bad either.
So, here are some sample images with crops and sharpened full images for web.
Full Image, slight unsharp mask at 35/1/0
Crop of image above, raw from lens
Full image at f:3.5, decent bokeh
Full image at f:8, good bokeh
Crop of image above, raw from lens
Full image, macro, f:8
Full image, f:2.8
Full image wide open, macro, good bokeh
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Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
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Yashica ML 35/2.8
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Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Looks neutral to me like an AF lens.
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Laurence
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:53 am Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
| Looks neutral to me like an AF lens. |
Exactly. Doesn't stand out in terms of contrast. Neutral is a good term for describing the output. Not bad at all, but not something that would make me want this lens over some others. The colors are true and that's good.
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Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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patrickh
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:39 am Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Not bad - about average. I keep preaching for this range - go check out the Kiron 28-85 or 28-105. Both are excellent and not too much more expensive than the Soligor if you can find them
patrickh
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poilu
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:12 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
I don't know about this lens but I like those heart shape pink flowers.
When you meet them again with a better lens don't forget to take some shots for us
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Orio
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:03 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
This lens, "neutral", would be perfect for the photos for my work. For my work, I need photos that are flat and shadow less. This is one of the reasons I use autofocus lenses mostly for my work. These photos would be perfect for my needs. I seem to remember the name of the plant with the purple bell flowers, but now it escapes me.
In any case, I want to add that Laurence could make great photos even with those supermarket throwaway preloaded cameras!
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Ingo
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:27 am Post subject: |
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Ingo wrote:
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I seem to remember the name of the plant with the purple bell flowers, but now it escapes me.
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It´s a Dicentra or bleeding heart.
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Orio
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:31 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
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I seem to remember the name of the plant with the purple bell flowers, but now it escapes me.
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It´s a Dicentra or bleeding heart.
Ingo |
Yes, Dicentra spectabilis.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
The lens performance does seem basically good but a little lifeless.
I must photograph my Dicentra before it fades - I've got the pink variety and a plain white.
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Laurence
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
Thanks guys! Your overall assessment are similar to my overall thoughts on the lens.
One thing you cannot know from these is that the colors were so true to the "real life colors" that I could probably put the image right up against the flowers and not see much difference in color.
I wonder if I could get a little more "oomph" out of this lens if I shot in the morning or evening? This was pretty much at 1pm yesterday, which puts the sun in high-noon position overhead. The shadows were virtually non-existent in the high overcast sky. I think I will go back if they are still in good bloom next weekend, and try for some different light.
A GOOD thing (I hope) is that I was able to get some shots with the Yashica Mat. 
I too, LOVE the Bleeding Hearts (or what my granfather used to call "Dutchman's Britches". The arc of the stems, with those little pendants of flowers hanging down is a treasure.
Note: The Yashica Mat jammed yesterday after taking a few shots. I also heard something "break" in there. It was my grandfather's camera, so I think I'll get it repaired even if it's costly.
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Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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Laurence
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
| patrickh wrote: |
Not bad - about average. I keep preaching for this range - go check out the Kiron 28-85 or 28-105. Both are excellent and not too much more expensive than the Soligor if you can find them
patrickh |
Thanks Patrick. I have the Tamron SP 35-80, so I think I'm not going to find anything that would be a big improvement over that lens. (At least within my $$$ range).
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Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
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Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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Laurence
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
| Richard_D wrote: |
The lens performance does seem basically good but a little lifeless.
I must photograph my Dicentra before it fades - I've got the pink variety and a plain white. |
Richard, if you could find a part of the plant with that nice "arch" of stem with the hanging flowers, I would love to see it. 
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Assent, and you are sane;
Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
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Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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poilu
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
| Richard wrote: |
| I must photograph my Dicentra before it fades - I've got the pink variety and a plain white |
| Laurence wrote: |
| Richard, if you could find a part of the plant with that nice "arch" of stem with the hanging flowers |
that would be a big challenge to succeed the composition of the 2 first shots of Laurence
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LucisPictor
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
I agree, this lens really is not bad and look at the f-numbers: pretty fast for a zoom lens.
Good luck with your YashicaMat.
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peterqd
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
| Laurence wrote: |
The Yashica Mat jammed yesterday after taking a few shots. I also heard something "break" in there. It was my grandfather's camera, so I think I'll get it repaired even if it's costly.
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Laurence, I heard something click in my camera too the other week and when the film was developed I found a double exposure. It didn't wind on the film for some reason. Touch wood, it's been OK again since then so far. I hope you find your problem is as simple.
About the Soligor, it's "OK" but the Tamron SP 35-80 beats it hands down.
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