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Chiti
Joined: 09 Apr 2009 Posts: 78 Location: La Coruña,Spain
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 10:37 pm Post subject: Searching a 1:1 macro |
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Chiti wrote:
Hello guys.
To add another lens to my collection, it's the moment to buy a macro lens.
I'm searching for a real size macro, but I don't know one good lens... really, I know a lot of good macro lenses, but not in my price settings.
Arround 200€ (250$) what it's the better macro? If the lens its cheper...better
Thank you so much!
Regards
Pd. The focal distance... arround 100mm _________________ D-SLR: Canon 5D II | Panasonic GH1 | Canon 24-105L | Panasonic 14-140
SLR: Contax RX, Ricoh KR-10X, Canon AE1, Praktica MTL-3.... and more
Lenses:
Carl Zeiss (Contax): Distagon 28/2.8 | Planar 50/1.7 y 85/1.4 | Sonnar 135/2.8 | Tele-Tessar 200/3.5
Tamron: 28-70 (44A) | 70-210 (46A) | 60-300 (23A)
Pentacon: 135/2.8 preset | 300/4 | 50/1.8
Rikenon: P Macro 105/2.8 (Kiron) | 50/2
Asahi Takumar: STak 55/1.8
Samyang: 14/2.8
Helios: 44-3 |
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no-X
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 2495 Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
1:1, around 100mm and under $250? Maybe Asahi Macro Takumar 100/4 + extension rings...
I know onlytwo 1:1 native macro lenses in this price segment: Vivitar (Komine) Macro 55/2.8 and Tomioka Macro Yashinon 60/2.8... _________________ (almost) complete list of Helios lenses
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10471 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
why do you need 1:1
with 1:2 the frame is 4.5cm on your 40D
tamron sp 90:2.5 go 1:2 and it is a nice portrait lens _________________ T* |
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Abbazz
Joined: 23 Jun 2007 Posts: 1098 Location: Jakarta
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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Abbazz wrote:
You won't find anything cheaper than this one:
Picture courtesy B&H
It fits the bill: it is 100mm, goes to 1:1 with included extension tube and is available new for $120. The lens is reputedly good (I have never tried it), so good in fact that Pentax sold it under its own band. It is available in many other mounts as well, and is sold under many different brands (Phoenix, Samyang, Quantaray, etc.).
Cheers!
Abbazz _________________ Il n'y a rien dans le monde qui n'ait son moment decisif, et le chef-d'oeuvre de la bonne conduite est de connaitre et de prendre ce moment. - Cardinal de Retz
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10794 Location: California
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Asahi Macro-Takumar 50/4 is my favorite. Gets to 1:1 less than $100US
I like very much using as a walkaround lens because it covers 1:1 macro to infinityAND has imho AWESOME IQ!
The Asahi Super-Macro-Takumar 50/4 for about the same price and Asahi Super-Multi-Coated Macro-Takumar 50/4 for a little more both go to 1:2, as does the Asahi Super-Multi-Coated 100/4 which goes for less than $150US. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
With bit luck you can not so good looking but still excellent Kiron 105mm f2.8 in Olympus OM or Minolta mount they are cheaper than others. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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koji
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2106 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
I also recommend Takumar 50/4 1:1 macro lens. _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
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PaulC
Joined: 23 Dec 2008 Posts: 2318
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 12:27 am Post subject: |
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PaulC wrote:
You could get a 105mm f4 micro-nikkor for that. It goes to 1:2 but is designed to go up to 1:1 with a short extension tube (which may have been supplied as standard with the lans, I believe it was for the 55mm) _________________ View or buy my photos at:
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 12:34 am Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Our Member Bawang has a Bokina in the marketplace now (Viv S1 2.5/90)
Don't miss it if you really are ready to jump _________________ Moderator |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 12:42 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
1:1 is not big issue.
If you can find a good affordable 1:2 lens, buy it. The moment you will need a 1:1 enlargement, just add a 5 euros extension tube. It will do exactly the same work as the tube of a 1:1 lens. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Chiti
Joined: 09 Apr 2009 Posts: 78 Location: La Coruña,Spain
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 12:59 am Post subject: |
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Chiti wrote:
Thanks for the answers.
Actually, I use the Pentacon 135 with extension tubes, and it works perfect, but i wanted a specific macro lens... too vice for my wallet
Regards _________________ D-SLR: Canon 5D II | Panasonic GH1 | Canon 24-105L | Panasonic 14-140
SLR: Contax RX, Ricoh KR-10X, Canon AE1, Praktica MTL-3.... and more
Lenses:
Carl Zeiss (Contax): Distagon 28/2.8 | Planar 50/1.7 y 85/1.4 | Sonnar 135/2.8 | Tele-Tessar 200/3.5
Tamron: 28-70 (44A) | 70-210 (46A) | 60-300 (23A)
Pentacon: 135/2.8 preset | 300/4 | 50/1.8
Rikenon: P Macro 105/2.8 (Kiron) | 50/2
Asahi Takumar: STak 55/1.8
Samyang: 14/2.8
Helios: 44-3 |
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Gus Helios
Joined: 10 Feb 2009 Posts: 144 Location: Cali
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 3:19 am Post subject: |
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Gus Helios wrote:
I have the 105 and 90mm Vivitar Series 1 lenses and they are both excellent.
But yesterday I had some fun with a Industar 61 with a vivitar macro TC.
I was pretty happy with the shots... even if I may have sharpened a tad much on the resize... But I have always been a sucker for those segmented eyes...
I think that combo would come under your 250 limit. And it looks to be at least 1:1
_________________ Nothing a shot a jack and some George Jones can't fix - Gus |
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orly_andico
Joined: 02 Jul 2008 Posts: 253 Location: Philippines
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 5:32 am Post subject: |
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orly_andico wrote:
I'd second the Phoenix / Samyang / Vivitar 100mm f3.5 (they are all made by Cosina in Japan)
I got mine (an AF version!) from B&H for $70 used. It goes 2:1 or 1:1 with the lifesize converter (which may or may not come with the lens -- Pentax's rebrand for example doesn't have the 1:1 converter).
It's decent at f3.5 and excellent at f5.6. I don't think Cosina makes the AF version anymore, but the MF version is about $120 new. It is of rather flimsy build however (not as flimsy as the Canon 50mm f1.8 II, but close).
f/16, auto-focus! this critter is about 1.5" long so not 1:1 |
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Laurence
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 4809 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 6:38 am Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
These are some GREAT macro shots! I wish that bugs didn't "bug" me so much, I don't really know why I'm adverse to close-ups of insects. But that certainly doesn't take away from the beautiful technical expertise you guys are showing on macro shots. _________________
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Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
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Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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Swappo
Joined: 02 Apr 2009 Posts: 327 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 8:25 am Post subject: |
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Swappo wrote:
Save some more money and buy SL Apo Lanthar 125/2.5 instead.
Nah, I've seen the SL Apo Lanthar 90/3.5 for around $250 at ebay and thats a good close-up lens. Look at the beutiful butterfly shot from Piotrek at the butterfly here: http://forum.mflenses.com/which-lens-do-you-like-for-the-bokeh-t13339,start,225.html#140118
That is absolutley a good choice if you can find a cheap one. |
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Swappo
Joined: 02 Apr 2009 Posts: 327 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 8:38 am Post subject: |
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Swappo wrote:
Oh, and btw...
The Cosina 100/3.5 macro might be intresting.
It's an AF lens, but AF is so bad that's it practically useless anyway.
It was on sale in a local store here in Sweden for about $150 a while a go.
Some friends of mine bought theirselfs a copy and are very happy with it.
It's only 1:1 if you use the provided close-up filter.
http://www.dyxum.com/columns/articles/lenses/Cosina_100_35_macro/Cosina_100_35_macro_review.asp
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=18263447
I guess thats one of the cheapest macro lenses you can find (if you don't care about build quality ).
I've also seen a similar lens from Soligor, 100/3.5 macro.
But I guess you where looking for a MF lens with great build quality, so forget about this then... But in case someone wanted to try macro very cheap this might be a good choice.
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cilinderman
Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 317 Location: Canillo, Andorra
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 9:45 am Post subject: |
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cilinderman wrote:
I usually use the Micro Nikkor-P 55/3.5 with some mm of extension tubes. These lens performs greats for me and I got it for 16 GBP! (even if it's quite dirty ). _________________ 5D & Fujica ST801|| Carl Zeiss Planar MM 50/1.7 (departed for resurrection) || Carl Zeiss Distagon 28/2.8 AEJ || Meyer Orestor "Pentacon" (relabeled) 135/2.8 || Carl Zeiss Jena 135/3.5 || Carl Zeiss Sonnar MM 85/2.8 || Carl Zeiss Flektogon MC "White" 35/2.4 || Olympus Zuiko OM MC 21/3.5 || Super Takumar 55/1.8 || Rollei Planar HFT 50/1.8 || "The three tenors" from Orio (Nikkor pre-AI 85/1.8, 135/3.5 & 105/2.5) |
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Chiti
Joined: 09 Apr 2009 Posts: 78 Location: La Coruña,Spain
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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Chiti wrote:
Thank you.
The voigtlander 90 is really amazing and the 125... (twice,hehehe)
I'm thinking that the better option is wait a few months and buy one of them!
I discard any option with extension tubes for a good macro, because with macro tubes I have the pentacon 135, and it works well...
Regards _________________ D-SLR: Canon 5D II | Panasonic GH1 | Canon 24-105L | Panasonic 14-140
SLR: Contax RX, Ricoh KR-10X, Canon AE1, Praktica MTL-3.... and more
Lenses:
Carl Zeiss (Contax): Distagon 28/2.8 | Planar 50/1.7 y 85/1.4 | Sonnar 135/2.8 | Tele-Tessar 200/3.5
Tamron: 28-70 (44A) | 70-210 (46A) | 60-300 (23A)
Pentacon: 135/2.8 preset | 300/4 | 50/1.8
Rikenon: P Macro 105/2.8 (Kiron) | 50/2
Asahi Takumar: STak 55/1.8
Samyang: 14/2.8
Helios: 44-3 |
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Chiti
Joined: 09 Apr 2009 Posts: 78 Location: La Coruña,Spain
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 11:18 am Post subject: |
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Chiti wrote:
Hello guys!
One week ago I'm dediced to wait a couple months and buy one apo-lanthar...but ebay hits again
Yesterday, I bougth a Rikenon 105/2.8 macro
With this nomenclature it's a bit stranger, but this is the same lens that the recognize Kiron 105 macro or the Vivitar 105/2.5
The better in this audition...the price
I only paid 90€ (arround 110$) for it...too far than the 300$ that cost any Kiron unit.
Regards
PD. I promise some pics when I receive it _________________ D-SLR: Canon 5D II | Panasonic GH1 | Canon 24-105L | Panasonic 14-140
SLR: Contax RX, Ricoh KR-10X, Canon AE1, Praktica MTL-3.... and more
Lenses:
Carl Zeiss (Contax): Distagon 28/2.8 | Planar 50/1.7 y 85/1.4 | Sonnar 135/2.8 | Tele-Tessar 200/3.5
Tamron: 28-70 (44A) | 70-210 (46A) | 60-300 (23A)
Pentacon: 135/2.8 preset | 300/4 | 50/1.8
Rikenon: P Macro 105/2.8 (Kiron) | 50/2
Asahi Takumar: STak 55/1.8
Samyang: 14/2.8
Helios: 44-3 |
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hasan
Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Posts: 313
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 11:42 am Post subject: |
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hasan wrote:
Great price, congratulations. |
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Klarth
Joined: 10 Jan 2009 Posts: 30
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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Klarth wrote:
I still remember when i got the Tamron 90mm 2.5 for that price. Plus $20 for the Tamron 2x TC.
Now it costs around $250-300. Damn you manual lens fashion!!
P. D. Vaya, hasta ahorita me voy dando cuenta que eras el Chiti de Canonistas. jaja!! |
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orly_andico
Joined: 02 Jul 2008 Posts: 253 Location: Philippines
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 5:04 am Post subject: |
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orly_andico wrote:
I just got the Komine Vivitar 90/2.8 1:1 macro for $78 on ebay (incl. shipping). Not the best price (I got my Cosina 100/3.5 1:2 AF Macro for less than $70) but I don't see them going for lower than that.. still waiting for it..
The lowest I've seen for the Pentax M42 50/4 1:2 Macro is in the $90 range. |
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piticu
Joined: 04 Aug 2008 Posts: 591 Location: Romania
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 11:35 am Post subject: |
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piticu wrote:
Congratulation for your Rikenon. Looking forward to see some samples.
I never used a macro lens except a SMC Takumar 105mm f4 on bellows. It fully pleases me.
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