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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:03 pm Post subject: Schneider Xenotar 150mm f/2.8 sold for US $38,988.00 on eBay |
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Spotmatic wrote:
Look what happened yesterday:
Click here to see on Ebay
That's a staggering amount of money. So what makes this lens so special? Apart from the excellent item photos and its big size (that's a standard Linhof lens board!) I don't see anything that makes me want to spend US$ 40K. What do you think?
(I now know what lens to look out for ) _________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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A G Photography
Joined: 11 May 2008 Posts: 1480 Location: Bologna - Italy
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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A G Photography wrote:
2.8 is a damn fast aperture for a large format lens, usually they are from 5.6 on. From what I know is a pretty rare lens (and the 150/4 sells for over 3000USD anyway). _________________ Alessandro
My Photography Website
My Blog about Photography and Italian Cuisine
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DSLR: Nikon d80, Olympus e410
SLR: Chinon CX, Fujica ST605n, Nikon f601, Pentacon FM, Pentax Spotmatic SPII, Praktica FX, Praktica FX2, Voigtlander VST1, Yashica FX-3, Zeiss Contaflex
RF: Altissa Altix, Zorki Ie, Kiev 4b
Medium Format: Pentacon Six TL, Zeiss Ikonta 520/2, Mockba 4, Voigtlander Bessa I, Agfa Isolette II, Agfa Isola
Large Format: Cambo SC 4x5, Rodenstock Sinaron 150/5.6, Rodenstock Rodagon 150/5.6, Schneider Kreuznach Symmar 180/5.6
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Nikkors: 28/3.5 AIS, 35/2, 50/1.8, 50/2 H, Micro 55/3.5, Micro 60/2.8, 85/1.8, 135/3.5 AI, 200/4 NAI, 18-55/3.5-5.6, 28-80/3.5-5.6, 55-200/4-5.6
CY: Distagon 28/2.8, Planar 50/1.4, Yashika 50/1.7, Sonnar 135/2.8
CZJ m42-Exakta: Flektogon 20/4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Tessar 40/4.5, Tessar 50/2.8, Pancolar 50/1.8, Pancolar 50/2, Biotar 58/2, Biotar 75/1.5, Tessar 80/2.8, Sonnar 135/3.5, Sonnar 135/4, Triotar 135/4
CZJ P6: Flektogon 50/4, Flektogon 65/2.8, Biometar 80/2.8, Biometar 120/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Meyer-Pentacon: Orestegon 29/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Lydith 30/3.5, Primagon 35/4.5, Helioplan 40/4.5, Domiplan 50/2.8, Primotar 50/3.5, Oreston 50/1.8, Primoplan 58/1.9, Orestor 100/2.8, Trioplan 100/2.8, Helioplan 135/4.5, Orestor 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, Primotar 135/3.5, Primotar 180/3.5, Telemegor 180/5.5, Orestegor 200/4, Pentacon 200/4, Orestegor 300/4, Telemegor 300/4.5, Telemegor 400/5.5
Schneider-Kreuznach: Curtagon 28/4, Curtagon 35/2.8, Xenon 50/1.9, Xenar 50/2.8, Tele Xenar 135/3.5, Tele Xenar 200/4
Russians: Arsat Zodiak 30/3.5, Mir-I 37/2.8, Volna-9 50/2.8, Industar-50 50/3.5, Industar-61 50/2.8, Helios 44 58/2, Helios 44-2 58/2, Helios 44-M-4 58/2, Volna-3 80/2.8, Helios 40 85/1.5, Jupiter 9 85/2, Jupiter 11 135/4
Others: Chinon-Tomioka 55/1.4, Helios 28/2.8, Isco Iscotar 50/2.8, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Ludwig Meritar 50/2.9, Schacht Travegon 35/3.5, Schacht Travenon 135/4.5, Sekor 55/1.8, Sigma MF 28/2.8, S-Takumar, 28/3.5, S-Takumar 50/1.4, S-Takumar 55/1.8, S-Takumar 55/2, Steinheil Quinar 135/2.8, Steinheil Culminar 135/4.5, Vivitar 135/2.8, Voigtlander Ultron 50/1.8, Yashica Yashinon DX 50/1.4, Zuiko MC Auto-W 28/2.8
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
Yes, that seems to be it. But I cannot imagine myself being able to handle that lens, not even with white gloves. It might fall off the camera, it might get fingerprints on it... The glass might get scratched. And that would be a $40K disaster. _________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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PaulC
Joined: 23 Dec 2008 Posts: 2318
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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PaulC wrote:
And to think that I quail at the price of an f1.2 lens for my dslr. I must be a complete wimp! _________________ View or buy my photos at:
http://shutterstock.com/g/paulcowan |
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rawhead
Joined: 09 Feb 2009 Posts: 1525 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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rawhead wrote:
Still, that's an excessive amount of money. I've been on the lookout for a Kreuznach Xenotar 150/2.8 for several months, and they usually go for less than 1K. If in good condition, perhaps 1.5K.
In this case, I'm willing to bet that most money was spent on the "Linhof" signature on the lens (on top of its collector level state). Those must be ultra rare. _________________ Sony α7R, Pentax 67II, Kiev-60, Hasselblad 203FE, 903SWC, Graflex Norita 66, Mamiya M645 1000s, Burke & James 8x10, Graflex Pacemaker Speed Graphic (4x5 and 3x4), Century Graphic (2x3), R.B. Graflex Seried D, Rolleiflex SL66E, Rolleiflex 2.8C Xenotar, Mamiya C330f, a few M42, six P6, three OM, four Hasselblad, two Pentax 67, two Mamiya 645, one Noritar, and a sprinkle of EF. Oh, and an Aero Ektar and Leica Noctilux |
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Sevo
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 1189 Location: Frankfurt, Germany
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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Sevo wrote:
Average 150/2.8 Xenotars go for around 600-1000€ - mint, late and blessed by the gods of Linhof, that might roll up to 3000€. Ten times as much is beyond all reason - and a bid war by two "buyers" that each hat 40% of their activities with that particular seller is entirely incredible. Shill bidding, for no good or legal purpose, I guess... _________________ Sevo |
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spleenone
Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 1130 Location: Slovakia
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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spleenone wrote:
A G Photography wrote: |
2.8 is a damn fast aperture for a large format lens, usually they are from 5.6 on. From what I know is a pretty rare lens (and the 150/4 sells for over 3000USD anyway). |
...for comparison with modern macro lens Sigma af apo 150/2.8 which you can get for 730usd from amazon... was cheaper. Great lens with 1:1 magnification. Also used on portraiture for her sharpness on full aperture. I think that many of us know this glass. |
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mkleywegt
Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 142 Location: netherlands
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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mkleywegt wrote:
I was following his linhof planar 135/3.5 Click here to see on Ebay and was also astonished about the price it fetched (over $10000)
even photo-arsenal doesnt get their 'prototype versions' sold for a third of that price.
anyone like to buy mine for half that price? you'll get a free speed graflex attached
or am i also missing something here. _________________ Optics specialist at:
https://fotohandeldelfshaven.nl
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Sevo
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 1189 Location: Frankfurt, Germany
Expire: 2012-12-03
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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Sevo wrote:
Ah, the same bidders at work again... _________________ Sevo |
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thePiRaTE!!
Joined: 31 Oct 2008 Posts: 416 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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thePiRaTE!! wrote:
I 'sold' an old Roland VP-330+ vocoder (sn#000006) in NM cond for 5k. Afterwards, the buyer made a huge sob story how he put that number as his max bid but it wasn't his intention to actually pay that amount. In the end after heated (on my part) negotiation, he coughed 3500, which I only accepted because no other bidder was willing to pay that amount on a second chance and it was still nearly double what I expected to get for it to begin with.
After another I had 'sold' at a shocking price, the buyer asked if he could take it and make monthly payments (and also claimed to misunderstand that the auction was in US dollars vs CDN which at the time were far apart). He vanished when I incredulously refused. He also had the nerve to leave me a neutral feedback for refusing. Luckily in that case, the secondary bidder honored his last bid when offered.
Point is, a lot of these ridiculous prices are the work of an idiot and may not reflect actual sales. More power to the seller if he actually got paid, but I would be confident that behind the scenes, something is afoot.
K. _________________ kellysereda.com
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Helios: 1.5/85 40-2.
Meyer-Optik: Trioplan 2.8/100, Oreston 1.8/50.
Minolta: Rokkor-PG 1.2/58.
Porst: 1.2/55 Color Reflex.
Sony: 4-5.6/70-400 G.
Takumar: Super Takumar 3.5/135, Super Takumar 1.4/50, SMC Takumar 3.5/28.
Topcon: Topcor 1.4/58.
Voigtländer: Nokton Classic SC 1.4/35.
Zeiss: Planar T*1.2/85 "60 jahre" C/Y, Vario-Sonnar T*3.4/35-70 C/Y, Vario-Sonnar T*2.8/16-35 ZA, Distagon T*2/24 ZA.
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CarbonR
Joined: 31 Dec 2008 Posts: 1969 Location: Clermont-Ferrand, France
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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CarbonR wrote:
spleenone wrote: |
A G Photography wrote: |
2.8 is a damn fast aperture for a large format lens, usually they are from 5.6 on. From what I know is a pretty rare lens (and the 150/4 sells for over 3000USD anyway). |
...for comparison with modern macro lens Sigma af apo 150/2.8 which you can get for 730usd from amazon... was cheaper. Great lens with 1:1 magnification. Also used on portraiture for her sharpness on full aperture. I think that many of us know this glass. |
The Sigma doesnt cover the 4x5' format. On this format, 150/2.8 is equivalent to a 50/0,93 lens on 24x36 format, so when we see the price of a Leica 50/0,95... _________________ Cameras : Canon 5D, Pentax K100D, Pentax 6x7, Spotmatic
Lenses : 15mm to 1000mm (24x36)
My websites : [FR & ENG]Takumar - the eyes of the Spotmatic : info about all Takumar lenses // Kogaku - My photo site
I am selling : Takumar lenses and rare Pentax bodies, pm me if you're interested in something [MFLenses feed-back]
Information on Takumar lenses with samples :
Wide angle : Takumar 15/3.5 15mm, Takumar 17/4 17mm, Takumar 18/11 18mm, Takumar 20/4.5 20mm, Takumar 24/3.5 24mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V1 28mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V2 28mm, Takumar 35/2 V1 35mm, Takumar 35/2 V2 35mm, Takumar 35/2.3 35mm, Takumar 35/3.5 35mm, Takumar 35/4 35mm
Standard : Takumar 50/1.4 V1 50mm, Takumar 50/1.4 V2 50mm, Takumar 50/3.5 50mm, Takumar 50/4 50mm, Takumar 55/2 55/1.8 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V1 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V2 55mm, Takumar 58/2 58mm, Takumar 58/2.4 58mm
Short tele : Takumar 83/1.9 83mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85/1.9 85mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85mm, Takumar 100/2 100mm, Takumar 100/3.5 100mm, Takumar 100/4 100mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V1 105mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V2 105mm, Takumar 120/2.8 120mm
Telephoto : Takumar 135/2.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/2.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 150/4 V1 150mm, Takumar 150/4 V2 150mm
Long tele : Takumar 200/3.5 200mm, Takumar 200/4 200mm, Takumar 200/5.6 200mm, Takumar 300/4 V1 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V2 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V3 300mm, Takumar 300/6.3 300mm, Takumar 400/5.6 400mm, Takumar 500/4.5 500mm, Takumar 500/5 500mm, Takumar 1000/8 V1 1000mm, Takumar 1000/8 V2 1000mm
Zoom : Zoom-Takumar 45~125/4 , Zoom-Takumar 70~150/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 85~210/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 135~600/6.7
Achromatic : Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 85/4.5 , Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 300/5.6 300mm |
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Sevo
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 1189 Location: Frankfurt, Germany
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Sevo wrote:
CarbonR wrote: |
The Sigma doesnt cover the 4x5' format. On this format, 150/2.8 is equivalent to a 50/0,93 lens on 24x36 format, so when we see the price of a Leica 50/0,95... |
Well, it is proportional to a 41/2.8 by geometry - the f/0.93 equivalent is DOF only. Such a big lens is somewhat of a feat nonetheless, and while not rare, fast LF lenses already were extinct by the seventies, when press and other action photography had quit using large format. The Xenotar arguably is the only fairly modern one among them, but it is not worth $40.000. _________________ Sevo |
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CarbonR
Joined: 31 Dec 2008 Posts: 1969 Location: Clermont-Ferrand, France
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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CarbonR wrote:
I've done wrong calculation it is rather an equivalent of a 43/0.8 lens (as 150mm is the diagonal of a 9x12 sheet, and the diagonal of 24x36 is 43mm and not 50mm), but yes, brightness remains f/2.8, that's the equivalent dof which is a f/0.8 _________________ Cameras : Canon 5D, Pentax K100D, Pentax 6x7, Spotmatic
Lenses : 15mm to 1000mm (24x36)
My websites : [FR & ENG]Takumar - the eyes of the Spotmatic : info about all Takumar lenses // Kogaku - My photo site
I am selling : Takumar lenses and rare Pentax bodies, pm me if you're interested in something [MFLenses feed-back]
Information on Takumar lenses with samples :
Wide angle : Takumar 15/3.5 15mm, Takumar 17/4 17mm, Takumar 18/11 18mm, Takumar 20/4.5 20mm, Takumar 24/3.5 24mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V1 28mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V2 28mm, Takumar 35/2 V1 35mm, Takumar 35/2 V2 35mm, Takumar 35/2.3 35mm, Takumar 35/3.5 35mm, Takumar 35/4 35mm
Standard : Takumar 50/1.4 V1 50mm, Takumar 50/1.4 V2 50mm, Takumar 50/3.5 50mm, Takumar 50/4 50mm, Takumar 55/2 55/1.8 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V1 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V2 55mm, Takumar 58/2 58mm, Takumar 58/2.4 58mm
Short tele : Takumar 83/1.9 83mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85/1.9 85mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85mm, Takumar 100/2 100mm, Takumar 100/3.5 100mm, Takumar 100/4 100mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V1 105mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V2 105mm, Takumar 120/2.8 120mm
Telephoto : Takumar 135/2.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/2.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 150/4 V1 150mm, Takumar 150/4 V2 150mm
Long tele : Takumar 200/3.5 200mm, Takumar 200/4 200mm, Takumar 200/5.6 200mm, Takumar 300/4 V1 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V2 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V3 300mm, Takumar 300/6.3 300mm, Takumar 400/5.6 400mm, Takumar 500/4.5 500mm, Takumar 500/5 500mm, Takumar 1000/8 V1 1000mm, Takumar 1000/8 V2 1000mm
Zoom : Zoom-Takumar 45~125/4 , Zoom-Takumar 70~150/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 85~210/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 135~600/6.7
Achromatic : Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 85/4.5 , Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 300/5.6 300mm |
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spleenone
Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 1130 Location: Slovakia
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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spleenone wrote:
Sevo wrote: |
CarbonR wrote: |
The Sigma doesnt cover the 4x5' format. On this format, 150/2.8 is equivalent to a 50/0,93 lens on 24x36 format, so when we see the price of a Leica 50/0,95... |
Well, it is proportional to a 41/2.8 by geometry - the f/0.93 equivalent is DOF only. Such a big lens is somewhat of a feat nonetheless, and while not rare, fast LF lenses already were extinct by the seventies, when press and other action photography had quit using large format. The Xenotar arguably is the only fairly modern one among them, but it is not worth $40.000. |
My inattention. Bigger formats (mean larger than FX) are really magnificent. In sense of DOF and calculation of focal distance. Trying medium format and it looks huge for me. Expensive, too. =) |
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aleksanderpolo
Joined: 24 Jan 2010 Posts: 684
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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aleksanderpolo wrote:
The two bidders seem to be one-uping each other. I want to follow them on evilbay for further drama! _________________ Panny GF1
Looking for: More articles to read
Current lens:
m4/3: 20/1.7; 14-45/3.5-5.6
C/Y: CZ 28/2.8; CZ 35/2.8; CZ 50/1.4
G: 45/2; 90/2.8
M: CV 35/1.4
Rollei: 50/1.8
m42: S-M-C Tak 50/1.4, Helios 44-2
F: AI 28/2; AIS 35/2; AIS 50/1.4; E 50/1.8
FL: 55/1.2
FD: Vivitar(Komine CF) 28/2; Kiron 28/2; nFD 50/1.4; nFD 35-105/3.5-4.5
AR: 40/1.8; 50/1.4; Adaptall 35-80/2.8-3.5
MD: Vivitar(Kiron) 24/2; MD 50/1.4
OM: 21/3.5; 24/2.8; 50/1.4; 135/3.5 |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16664 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
ever thought about money laudering?? _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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PaulC
Joined: 23 Dec 2008 Posts: 2318
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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PaulC wrote:
Money laundering? Surely the authorities track transactions like that? I can't receive any money via paypay because of the money laundering rules and I have to fill in a form for the central bank for every cheque I get from overseas, even though most of them are only for $200 (but there are quite a lot of them, which just adds to the inconvenience). Still. I wouldn't be surprised if the rules that damn near persecute me do absolutely nothing to prevent bad guys shifting thousands, using the very instruments I am locked out of. _________________ View or buy my photos at:
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
No comment ... one guy has no food another one have 40K for a lens, nice world. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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PaulC
Joined: 23 Dec 2008 Posts: 2318
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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PaulC wrote:
Hey, Attila, we're all privileged here you know. The $500 or $1,000 you or I might spend on a lens is more than a year's income to people in some parts of the world. Our price scale is no more or less beyond imagining for them than the price on this lens.
Besides, you wouldn't be complaining if you sold one for that _________________ View or buy my photos at:
http://shutterstock.com/g/paulcowan |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
PaulC wrote: |
Hey, Attila, we're all privileged here you know. The $500 or $1,000 you or I might spend on a lens is more than a year's income to people in some parts of the world. Our price scale is no more or less beyond imagining for them than the price on this lens.
Besides, you wouldn't be complaining if you sold one for that |
Don't compare with a 40k lens an 500 - 1000 USD spend also not compare with different part of worlds a basic EU income what is not enough for every day life pure luxury in Africa I know well. I did talk about our world , so many poor people here too and this kind of luxury just not right even in America. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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spleenone
Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 1130 Location: Slovakia
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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spleenone wrote:
suspected from lensy illness |
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lwsy711
Joined: 21 Oct 2009 Posts: 230 Location: VA, US
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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lwsy711 wrote:
Wow, that price! Just want to say there is still another guy willing to pay this price for the lens.....
Guys, keep digging
Agree with Attila, the world is not fair but we have to live with it...... _________________ Camera: pentax k7, Olympus E-p1
MF lens:
M42: CZJ 20/4, 35/2.4, 50/1.8, 135/3.5, Super Takumar 35/3.5, Yashinon macro 60/2.8, CZ tessar 80/2.8(Exakta to M42), Vivitar 200/3.5
Pk: Cosinon 55/1,2
Exakta: CZJ biotar 75/1.5, Meyer 100/2.8, Meritar 50/2.9
Praktina: CZJ biotar 75/1.5, Primagon 35/4.5
Praktica: CZJ pancolar 80/1.8 |
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ChrisLilley
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1767 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
spleenone wrote: |
A G Photography wrote: |
2.8 is a damn fast aperture for a large format lens, usually they are from 5.6 on. From what I know is a pretty rare lens (and the 150/4 sells for over 3000USD anyway). |
...for comparison with modern macro lens Sigma af apo 150/2.8 which you can get for 730usd from amazon... was cheaper. Great lens with 1:1 magnification. Also used on portraiture for her sharpness on full aperture. I think that many of us know this glass. |
That is an unequal comparison. The Sigma is covering a much smaller image circle. _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ai'ed, AiS
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