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Nima
Joined: 16 Aug 2009 Posts: 13
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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Nima wrote:
Köszönöm! |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Nima wrote: |
Köszönöm! |
Are you Hungarian ? _________________ -------------------------------
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Nima
Joined: 16 Aug 2009 Posts: 13
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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Nima wrote:
No but my employer is.
Still got the Unicum bottle of my last visit in Pest in the fridge. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Nima wrote: |
No but my employer is.
Still got the Unicum bottle of my last visit in Pest in the fridge. |
Okay. _________________ -------------------------------
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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paperinik
Joined: 11 Jan 2009 Posts: 100 Location: Adro, italy
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
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Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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WallyJr74
Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Posts: 146 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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WallyJr74 wrote:
I have the Rokinon and it's amazing especially wide open. _________________ -----------------------------------------------------------
Nikon D700 & some AF/MF lenses. |
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peterm1
Joined: 06 Dec 2007 Posts: 224
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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peterm1 wrote:
Nima wrote: |
No but my employer is.
Still got the Unicum bottle of my last visit in Pest in the fridge. |
Unicum................hmmmmmmmm love UNicum.
And Barak Palinka.................YUM! Oh and lets not forget the Slivovitz. Double UM
You can see my Hungarian heritage shining through! _________________ PeterM |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
peterm1 wrote: |
Nima wrote: |
No but my employer is.
Still got the Unicum bottle of my last visit in Pest in the fridge. |
Unicum................hmmmmmmmm love UNicum.
And Barak Palinka.................YUM! Oh and lets not forget the Slivovitz. Double UM
You can see my Hungarian heritage shining through! |
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Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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tkbslc
Joined: 02 Jul 2009 Posts: 194 Location: Utah, USA
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 5:25 am Post subject: |
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tkbslc wrote:
Is this the same lens marketed under several names? I have lenses that look identical in vivitar, rokinar, samyang, and opteka brands. Is one brand preferable to the next? _________________ Canon 30D + some AF and MF lenses |
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 5:53 am Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
tkbslc wrote: |
Is this the same lens marketed under several names? I have lenses that look identical in vivitar, rokinar, samyang, and opteka brands. Is one brand preferable to the next? |
It is "Rokinon" and not "Rokinar". But yes, those are just the same lenses. I'd recommend to buy the cheapest one you can find. It does not matter unless Vivitar has a more strict quality control (but I don't think so). _________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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Jieffe
Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 754 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:45 am Post subject: |
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Jieffe wrote:
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I'd recommend to buy the cheapest one you can find. |
Indeed ... a quick search on the Bay give 175 € for Opteka and 243 € for Samyang. Quite a difference for the same lens ! |
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Milanos
Joined: 04 Feb 2009 Posts: 110 Location: Vlašim
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Milanos wrote:
Oh and lets not forget the Slivovitz. Double UM
You can see my Hungarian heritage shining through![/quote]
Certainly it is shining but Slivovitz cames from Czech and Slovak home destileries. We are masters in such a drinks.
We can prepare it from anything which has a sugar. Any fruit.
And don´t forget mushrooms and strong beers - also containing good enough sugar to start destilling.
You should come to here and taste it. I guarantee You will get 7 or 8 cups of Slivovitz and You will find manual focus impossible and extremelly funny
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:04 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Jieffe wrote: |
Spotmatic wrote: |
I'd recommend to buy the cheapest one you can find. |
Indeed ... a quick search on the Bay give 175 € for Opteka and 243 € for Samyang. Quite a difference for the same lens ! |
What a brands names makes difference lol
I like Rokinon and Vivitar name _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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tkbslc
Joined: 02 Jul 2009 Posts: 194 Location: Utah, USA
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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tkbslc wrote:
In the US, Ebay has:
Rokinon $249
Opteka $249
Samyang $357
Vivitar Series 1 $310-340
With the way these things are flooding ebay and the online photo shops, I bet resale value is going to be horrid. Who is going to pay much for used Opteka or Samyang? I think I might wait until some used ones start hitting the market. I bet they will be sub $200 before long. And how can you pass up a decent 85mm f1.4 for that price? _________________ Canon 30D + some AF and MF lenses |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
tkbslc wrote: |
In the US, Ebay has:
Rokinon $249
Opteka $249
Samyang $357
Vivitar Series 1 $310-340
With the way these things are flooding ebay and the online photo shops, I bet resale value is going to be horrid. Who is going to pay much for used Opteka or Samyang? I think I might wait until some used ones start hitting the market. I bet they will be sub $200 before long. And how can you pass up a decent 85mm f1.4 for that price? |
Take on new price and hopefully we can support manufacturer to make more excellent lenses on low price like this. Take as second hand not a good message for manufacturer and 50-60 USD is really nothing as difference. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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tkbslc
Joined: 02 Jul 2009 Posts: 194 Location: Utah, USA
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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tkbslc wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Take on new price and hopefully we can support manufacturer to make more excellent lenses on low price like this. Take as second hand not a good message for manufacturer and 50-60 USD is really nothing as difference. |
That is a very good point and you are right, what's $50 extra for a good lens? I am hoping if they do make more lenses like this they can at least include AF confirm chips in them. It would be great to have the EXIF data stamped in there even if the AF confirm is not as reliable. I could care less about auto aperture. I can dial a ring on the lens as easy as a dial on the camera.
I also just found yet ANOTHER brand name for this lens: Bower - $350 at B&H photo and $280 on ebay.
Someone had commented on the size of the lens, but in fact it is not very large compared to many other fast 85's. The specs I found put the 85 1.4 @ 75x78x530g. The Canon 85mm 1.8 is 75x71x425g. So an extra couple mm here and there and 100g for almost a stop of light is nothing to fret over IMO. The jupiter 9 is 66x72x380g. _________________ Canon 30D + some AF and MF lenses |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I hope they sales earn some profit and we can see more nice lens from them. I am think about to contact to them and offer detailed review to support their works. Problem only I didn't find any contact to their sales or marketing department.If anybody know please let me know. _________________ -------------------------------
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Ballu
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 912 Location: Columbus, OH. USofA
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Dco
Joined: 17 Aug 2009 Posts: 19 Location: Vigo, Spain
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Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:45 am Post subject: |
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Dco wrote:
Attila, I think Samyang is the real builder, and the rest are just rebrands, maybe you should try to contact them...
http://www.syopt.co.kr/
You can go to "contact us" on the top of the page and you have some emails avaliable.
Samyang also makes an 8mm f3.5 fisheye, if someone is interested, it's seems to be good too, for what i've seen so far. I hope they keep bringing us some more lenses like these _________________ Pentax K100d super, *IstD, K5
SMC-M 50mm f1.7, Sigma 24mm f2.8, Kiron 24mm f2, Samyang 85mm f1.4 Aspherical IF, Sigma 500mm f7.2
Some "evil" AF lenses |
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alelinuxbsd
Joined: 09 Aug 2009 Posts: 36 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:59 am Post subject: |
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alelinuxbsd wrote:
I hope a day the productor realize a f/1.7 or better a f/2 version so this lens will be more light, more small, cost even less.
I have noticied that I use my 50 mm at 2.4 and more often at 2.8 so it isn't a problem for me a len wide open f/2.
Clearly with a better control of CA will be even a lot better..
Despite the CA is evidence in some circumstance I like the result and perhpas one day i could buy it. |
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ChrisLilley
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1767 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
Dco wrote: |
Attila, I think Samyang is the real builder, and the rest are just rebrands, |
That is correct. _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ai'ed, AiS
Camera: Nikon D90, D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 K, AI'ed | N.K. Nikkor-N 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor-N.C 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | ЛЗОС (LZOS) Юпитер-9 (Jupiter-9) 85mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 90mm f/3.5 SL | Nikkor-P 105mm f/2.5 pre-Ai, Ai'ed | Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 | Schneider Kreuznach Componon 105mm f/5.6 | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED AiS | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list) |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
ChrisLilley wrote: |
Dco wrote: |
Attila, I think Samyang is the real builder, and the rest are just rebrands, |
That is correct. |
I knew that I would explain I like better with other name like Rokinon or Vivitar. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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ChrisLilley
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1767 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Take on new price and hopefully we can support manufacturer to make more excellent lenses on low price like this. Take as second hand not a good message for manufacturer and 50-60 USD is really nothing as difference. |
hmm
Attila wrote: |
Yes , it's interesting. We should wait one year and try to get it second hand
I think I will drop them an e-mail perhaps they lend me a copy for testing. |
_________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ai'ed, AiS
Camera: Nikon D90, D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 K, AI'ed | N.K. Nikkor-N 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor-N.C 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | ЛЗОС (LZOS) Юпитер-9 (Jupiter-9) 85mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 90mm f/3.5 SL | Nikkor-P 105mm f/2.5 pre-Ai, Ai'ed | Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 | Schneider Kreuznach Componon 105mm f/5.6 | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED AiS | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list) |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Dco wrote: |
Attila, I think Samyang is the real builder, and the rest are just rebrands, maybe you should try to contact them...
http://www.syopt.co.kr/
You can go to "contact us" on the top of the page and you have some emails avaliable.
Samyang also makes an 8mm f3.5 fisheye, if someone is interested, it's seems to be good too, for what i've seen so far. I hope they keep bringing us some more lenses like these |
Thanks ! I did contact to them. Let we see. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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