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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:53 am    Post subject: RF glass on M9 (or 8) Reply with quote
Well I broke down and bought an M9. I have quite a few lenses which it can shoot, and I want to try them all. Smile

I know there are a number of members here who also have an M9 or M8, I hope you will join and share you favorite lenses in this thread--and any lens on M8 or 9 you find interesting.

It was a very dark afternoon here, but I had a new camera Smile


L1000084 by unoh7, on Flickr


L1000059 by unoh7, on Flickr


L1000075 by unoh7, on Flickr


L1000053-2 by unoh7, on Flickr


L1000070 by unoh7, on Flickr

These all the 28mm summicron Smile


PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Aww, Uhoh, that 28 Summicron is a rubbish lens. It doesn't even make the sun shine on a dull day Very Happy


PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
What happened to the A7? Very Happy


PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
M9 ..whoooa..congratulations!

Bille wrote:
What happened to the A7? Very Happy

yes uhoh, I suppose you now have both the M9 and A7, after exchanging it for the A7r..of course I am curious how you feel they compare


PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
can we assume by this purchase that you were disillussioned with the A7's rf lens performance?


PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Congratulations. Any M Leica gives you a very special feeling. You love it or you loathe it. I love it. Wink


PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
rbelyell wrote:
can we assume by this purchase that you were disillussioned with the A7's rf lens performance?


I love the A7 and will keep it Smile

35 the CV 1.2 is close to M9, and CV 1.4 is very usable. but wider than that it's really no comparison. The M9, despite terrible scores at DXO, just makes great images with the RF glass, and the tiny wides, like CV 21 make it a reasonable size.

Prices have come way down, so I just bit the bullet. Smile


L1000043 by unoh7, on Flickr

28 cron at F/2

A7+M9 a dream combo for me (and maybe any MF lover), really.


PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
congrats. youre building, or have built, quite a lovely and high quality collection.


PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
TY all for kind words and merciless jabs LOL

Well I was pretty bummed my zeiss 18mm f/4 M mount was not quite the cat's meow, even on the plain A7, so I took it out today with the new, soon to be not mint M9:


L1000155 by unoh7, on Flickr

Marilyn Monroe's "Bus Stop" in the movie of the same name. Smile

f/9.5: (not sure how the camera knows the aperture, haha)

L1000337 by unoh7, on Flickr

wide open:

L1000298 by unoh7, on Flickr


L1000335-2 by unoh7, on Flickr

What do you guys think, should I keep the lens?


PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
uhoh7 wrote:

What do you guys think, should I keep the lens?


Is that a serious question? Cool

No, of course not. You can send it to me. I even pay for the shipping! Wink

Amazing shots! And what a great place!!


PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
uhoh7 wrote:

Well I was pretty bummed my zeiss 18mm f/4 M mount was not quite the cat's meow, even on the plain A7, so I took it out today with the new, soon to be not mint M9:

(...)

What do you guys think, should I keep the lens?


Still serious color shift towards the corners. Have you tried one of the lens profiles (Super-Elmar 18...)?


PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bille wrote:
uhoh7 wrote:

Well I was pretty bummed my zeiss 18mm f/4 M mount was not quite the cat's meow, even on the plain A7, so I took it out today with the new, soon to be not mint M9:

(...)

What do you guys think, should I keep the lens?


Still serious color shift towards the corners. Have you tried one of the lens profiles (Super-Elmar 18...)?


I think these were shot with that profile.

I was actually surprised there was not more colorshift--but you know it can be subtle and I pick it up the more shots I have.

I should some shots for Adobe flat field plug in.

Lucas, I loved this lens on the 5n, now I really see it. I will need a viewfinder though--keh had a frankenfinder for a decent price, so I pulled the trigger--some tell me I will hate it.

This M9 is like an american girl doll: needs serious accessories LOL Last few days I have bought two straps, A&A red "easy" and Barton 1972, a thumbs up, after I ordered a zhou case, my seller announced he had a luigi for the M9 he would give me for 120 shipped: fell for that. And I found a Leica grip for cheap. Oh yes, a diaopter and soft release thingy.

I feel like the guy in the movie "collector"! My precious. The A7 is cinderella and can wear the extra strap.

Here is the tiny and famous and cheap CV 21/4:


L1000181 by unoh7, on Flickr


L1000218 by unoh7, on Flickr


L1000228 by unoh7, on Flickr


L1000191 by unoh7, on Flickr


L1000192 by unoh7, on Flickr

are you cold yet?


PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I wonder why it has that nasty colour shift on the left but not on the right? Decentred lens perhaps?


PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Beautiful winter landscape, blue and white looking so good.


PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I wonder why it has that nasty colour shift on the left but not on the right? Decentred lens perhaps?


A decentered lens would result in lack of sharpness, not in a colour shift. And that colour shift here is not at all nasty.

Nasty colour shift looks like this:


CV Super-Wide Heliar 4.5/15 on Sony A7R! Shocked


PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
LucisPictor wrote:
And that colour shift here is not at all nasty.

Yeah, Ian get a grip......LOL

Today, I took out another lens which never quite lived up to what I expected. It's a legend really, available often for 250-300USD, supposedly designed after the BIG legend, the Canon LTM 35/2. I'm talking about the TINY 114 gram CV 35/2.5

On the 5n i was never happy with the edges--even with the huge crop of aps-c--and it was unusable on the A7r, but barely OK on the plain A7. How is it on the M9?

Let's start wide open:

L1000431 by unoh7, on Flickr

According to M9 this is f/3.4

L1000405 by unoh7, on Flickr

f/5.6:


L1000420 by unoh7, on Flickr

f/6.8

L1000432 by unoh7, on Flickr


L1000416-2 by unoh7, on Flickr

To see originals, full size, click on the photo, then right click it in flickr and choose "original". It's pretty astounding to me. Smile


PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I am using three lenses most of the time on my M9, they are all Zeiss ZMs:

- C Sonnar 1.5/50
- Biogon 2/35
- Biogon 2.8/25

I have chosen them very accurately, due to their specific qualities:

- the C Sonnar for it's bokeh and portrait ability
- the Biogon 2/35 because it's the commercially available lens with the lowest geometric distortion (near zero)
- the Biogon 2.8/25 because it's one of the commercially available lenses with the highest resolving power

I am delighted with all of them and will never change them. They are also completely free from colour shift.
Other lenses I use:

- Orion-15 6/28 (Soviet wide copy of aerial Zeiss Topogon), beautiful gift from LucisPictor
Excellent image quality, slow speed a bit limiting the use

- Jupiter-9 2/85 L39 threadmount - I am waiting for the mail to deliver it to me.

- Voigtlaender Snapshot-Skopar 4/25
Excellent image quality that does not fall far from the Biogon equivalent, on the M9 it shows some colour shift
unfortunately, it is possible to fix the images but for this reason, I now only use it on film (where it's perfect).

I also occasionally use the Zeiss lenses from the old Contax RF line, but rarely, due to the awkwardness of
the adapter. I prefer to use those lenses on the native cameras with film.

No Leica lenses for me - both because I prefer Zeiss image fingerprint, and because Leica lenses are priced insanely
for my possibilities.

One other lens I wish I could buy for the M9? The 4.5/21 ZM Biogon - it would be perfect for my architectural shots.

Regarding your question about the Distagon: I would not use a retrofocal wide lens on a rangefinder camera - it sort of
denies the best feature of the system. Also I am not impressed by your samples of the Distagon.
If the extra degrees of FOV are not crucial, I would sell it and buy one of the Biogon 21s instead: the f/4.5 if you favour
architectural shots, the f/2.8 if you favour nature scenery or street action.


PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:
Also I am not impressed by your samples of the Distagon.


Why not join the thread with images to show what you like?


L1000497 by unoh7, on Flickr


L1000544 by unoh7, on Flickr


L1000510 by unoh7, on Flickr

M9 + rubbish 28 cron Wink


PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
50 cron V4 on M9:

L1000562 by unoh7, on Flickr


L1000578 by unoh7, on Flickr

and......


DSC06958 by unoh7, on Flickr

1937 Zeiss 50/1.5

L1000610 by unoh7, on Flickr


L1000607 by unoh7, on Flickr


PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Again, I'd invite M shooters to join in here Smile

Today I had the very small and cheap CV 75/2.5 on the M9


L1000659 by unoh7, on Flickr


L1000651 by unoh7, on Flickr


L1000637 by unoh7, on Flickr


PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
cmon M shooters let's see your fav lenses Smile

here's that rubbish zm18 again:

L1000713 by unoh7, on Flickr


L1000706 by unoh7, on Flickr

28 elmarit v3:


L1000703 by unoh7, on Flickr



L1000724 by unoh7, on Flickr



50cron:

L1000804 by unoh7, on Flickr


PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
A few minutes on the streets of Hailey, Idaho with M9 and CV 35/1.4 MC


L1000903 by unoh7, on Flickr


L1000920 by unoh7, on Flickr


L1000924 by unoh7, on Flickr

Was my first day shooting with the outrageously expensive--and heavy-- thumbsup grip. I'm sorry to say it's wunderbar--now I can't return it! Sad


L1000896-2 by unoh7, on Flickr


L1000931 by unoh7, on Flickr

God, I love this camera Smile


PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
50 cron @ f/2 no PP:


L1001044 by unoh7, on Flickr

It's a funny camera to use, because you really never know what you have until later--like film. The LCD is terrible of course, and with a fast shot like this focus is always a question--with any camera I guess--but the Sonys you can tell right there if you have "it".

But no camera I've owned takes my breath away like the Leica M9. Very distinctive look. Ultra contrast and very fine detail.


PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
You live in a beautiful place!

uhoh7 wrote:
Again, I'd invite M shooters to join in here Smile


As soon as find the time. Got a lot of work to do ATM.

uhoh7 wrote:

Today I had the very small and cheap CV 75/2.5 on the M9


Cheap but astoundingly good, isn't it?


PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

L1001334 by unoh7, on Flickr


L1001323 by unoh7, on Flickr


L1001294 by unoh7, on Flickr

m-rokkor 40/2
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