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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4745 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
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Painters at auto body shops might have some tips.
With old Land Rovers and other working vehicles it is sometimes desirable to keep the knocks and scars of a long life in order to preserve originality while others prefer concourse condition and would shrink from loading on tools and rubbish needing to be hauled away somewhere.
The external appearance of an old camera might signal its corresponding hard life as something worth relishing, or signal a preference for the concourse. In both cases, faking the appearance in order to appear as something it is not, is cheating if not made known to a buyer.
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I'm happy with a beat up appearance, CLA the insides and make it work. _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4088 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
paulhofseth wrote: |
The external appearance of an old camera might signal its corresponding hard life as something worth relishing, or signal a preference for the concourse. |
I have few very worn lenses here - among them a Nikkor 2.5/105mm -, and I like them for what they are. It would be meaningless to put a lot of work to "restore" such items, since like-new copies can easily be bought.
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In both cases, faking the appearance in order to appear as something it is not, is cheating if not made known to a buyer.
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I'm not talking about selling a restored lens. It's just fun to do it, for my own. The Minolta AF 2.8/200mm APO lenses, for instance, have a strong tendency to loose their whitish color and to completely expose the aluminum below. Somehow the primer used must have been wrong (or completely omitted?). Around 2005 there was a group of people at the German "Minolta forum" restoring their (otherwise perfect) MinAF 2.8/200 APO lenses. It was fun - and quite a lot of specific knowledge was exchanged ...
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paulhofseth
Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Posts: 577 Location: Norway
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:50 pm Post subject: restoration |
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paulhofseth wrote:
I mjust admit that a few decades ago, I used a sharpie pen on a shiny nick in the black "verlauffilter"threads of my Hologon in order to avoid reflexes, and today I will dismount, clean and oil the very UN-original K&N air filter on our 1959 vintage car.
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Gardener
Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Posts: 950 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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Gardener wrote:
paulhofseth wrote: |
The external appearance of an old camera might signal its corresponding hard life as something worth relishing, or signal a preference for the concourse. In both cases, faking the appearance in order to appear as something it is not, is cheating if not made known to a buyer. |
I don't see it that way at all. As a seller I promise a buyer certain appearance and performance. How I get to that point is my business. What and how was cleaned and relubed, where I got the replacement parts - I do not owe that info to anyone. |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11067 Location: California
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Click here to see on Ebay
Asahi Pentax "AP" Black Repaint 35mm SLR Camera w/ 58mm f/2 Takumar Lens N.Mint. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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Blazer0ne
Joined: 12 Sep 2018 Posts: 836
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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paulhofseth
Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Posts: 577 Location: Norway
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:42 pm Post subject: restoration |
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paulhofseth wrote:
The paint advice above is useful, and for ones own pleasure, repainting is totally in order if so desired, such a concourse style item may well be worth having on the shelf,but if selling, might attract a different type of buyer-
The pernicious type of styling the exterior. is to give an impression of factory freshness when the innards are shot
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HansMoleman
Joined: 12 Jul 2019 Posts: 158 Location: MD USA
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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HansMoleman wrote:
Blazer0ne wrote: |
I will throw it in the garbage when I am done with the lens. Thank you very much.
Anyone want to know the GPS coordinates of that trash bin? |
Let's just cut out the middleman. I'll give ya my address. |
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