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Orio wrote:
I post it here because of the size of the crop.
Whole image:
100% crop  :
(the focus is on the self timer lever)
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arhi_tectu1 wrote:
wow the lens is so sharp realy nice
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LucisPictor wrote:
Which f-stop did you use, Orio?
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| Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
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| Which f-stop did you use, Orio? |
this shot was 1/125 and the wide open was 1/800
If I am not wrong this would mean 2,5 stops difference - so it should have been something like a f/3.5
is this calculation correct?
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trifox wrote:
oh my god!! that's impossible! 
tf
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| Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
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oh my god!! that's impossible!
tf |
This lens and the 5DII make a killer combination.
By looking at this crop (hand held), I feel like it is not much
distant anymore from medium format film results.
P.S. This copy is as old as me! (produced 1961 to 1964)
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Orio wrote:
Does anybody know what filter thread diameter the Biotar 75 "fat type" ?
It looks like it could be 62 but I don't have filters or caps handy to try.
I need both a front cap and a hood for it.
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Killer sharp Orio. Keeper lens
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| Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:31 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
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Killer sharp Orio. Keeper lens
patrickh |
Yes. I admit I've been surprised. I knew that the Biotar 75s are good. But I did not imagine they are SO good!
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A G Photography wrote:
| Orio wrote: |
| patrickh wrote: |
Killer sharp Orio. Keeper lens
patrickh |
Yes. I admit I've been surprised. I knew that the Biotar 75s are good. But I did not imagine they are SO good! |
They are, I like them better than Contax Planar 85/1.4.
You were lucky I didn't come to that fair or we'd have to fight LOL, but considering I already own two of them I'm happy you got one 
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| Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:52 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Yep, killer detail and clarity, excellent! |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:12 am Post subject: |
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bob955i wrote:
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Does anybody know what filter thread diameter the Biotar 75 "fat type" ?
It looks like it could be 62 but I don't have filters or caps handy to try.
I need both a front cap and a hood for it. |
58mm filter thread for hoods/clip caps or 60mm push on for cap.
The metal hood from an Orestegor/Pentacon 4/200 fits and works well. You can still use a 60mm push on cap or a 58mm clip cap with this hood as it's the same external diameter as the lens filter ring and the hood is also ribbed internally which allows a clip cap to grip and stay on.
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Orio wrote:
Thanks Bob
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| Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
| Orio wrote: |
| LucisPictor wrote: |
| Which f-stop did you use, Orio? |
this shot was 1/125 and the wide open was 1/800
If I am not wrong this would mean 2,5 stops difference - so it should have been something like a f/3.5
is this calculation correct? |
Seems correct to me.
Orio, this is an incredible performance!
I am happy with (and for) you.
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Orio wrote:
thanks Carsten.
I have made another test shot today and I am more and more impressed.
This one is on the 5DII at 50 ISO
Subject is Elderberry (Sambucus nigra)
whole resized:
100% crop - note the rendering of leaf texture even with reflecting light:
100% crop - note the tiny hair under the leaf stems:
100% crop - note what I would define the painterly quality of the bokeh:
I am more and more impressed. What did I lose not to have this lens so far?
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| Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
| Orio wrote: |
| I am more and more impressed. What did I lose not to have this lens so far? |
damn! this lens need a 5DIII |
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Attila wrote:
Now you know what I did spreed long time ago ... I bought all possible variant because I think this lens is one of the best perhaps best in it's category and if we see how old more amazing..
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bob955i wrote:
It's why I have two copies; one Exakta, one M42, and will never sell either of them. |
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Chiti wrote:
WOW!!
This lens is amazing.!!I need buy one, it's possible the best 100% crops that I ever seen 
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I'm also quite impressed.... I now know which 80mm-ish portrait lens I want for my 5D
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