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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:42 pm    Post subject: Portra 800 shots Reply with quote
Finally tried this film and no noise reduction* was used:





Taken late afternoon yesterday. I have some more to work up and will
add later.

Camera: Konica T4
Lens: UC Hexanon 4/80-200 zoom (manual focus only)

*some NR to the background has now been applied to the first and last picture

Last edited by Katastrofo on Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:07 am; edited 4 times in total


PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
These are very good Bill.

#1 is pure class and one of the best flower photos I have seen posted here recently (and you know how I am tired with flowers at the moment)

#2 a perfect capture

and #3 has a beautiful contrast between the black skin and the green of the leaves. In this last one I would perhaps use some Noise Ninja though, perhaps selectively (on skin only, to make it different texture from the BG).


PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
All three look superb! I have so much respect for you film guys having tried shooting a roll recently Surprised


PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Shrek wrote:
All three look superb! I have so much respect for you film guys having tried shooting a roll recently Surprised


Film brings out talent more, this is my opinion.
With film, you can not cheat. You would not shoot 5 times in a row trying to get close to a good result like you can do with digital. With film, you have to be good enough to know in advance. In other words, you need to know how to photograph. This still makes a difference. In Bill's photos, I can see the care and the attention to the detail and the composition, and the precise light metering (you can not play dices with film when metering). All qualities that make me appreciate a photograph a lot. Plus the good aesthetical taste (which is not a strictly photographic quality, but very important never the less).


PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:
Shrek wrote:
All three look superb! I have so much respect for you film guys having tried shooting a roll recently Surprised


Film brings out talent more, this is my opinion.
With film, you can not cheat. You would not shoot 5 times in a row trying to get close to a good result like you can do with digital. With film, you have to be good enough to know in advance. In other words, you need to know how to photograph. This still makes a difference. In Bill's photos, I can see the care and the attention to the detail and the composition, and the precise light metering (you can not play dices with film when metering). All qualities that make me appreciate a photograph a lot. Plus the good aesthetical taste (which is not a strictly photographic quality, but very important never the less).


I totally agree. I wouldn't dare take a film SLR in place of a DSLR until I was 100% confident in my ability to judge situations. And as you say, you can't do that until you really know how to photograph. One day, one day!!


PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Shrek and Orio, thanks for the kind words.

Orio, it would be easier for me to use NR on the BG. I have Noise Ninja
Pro, but am not really good at it yet, except for doing backgrounds.

It seems Portra colors don't let you down regardless of what ISO you
use. There's grain, but is more forgiveable than Kodak Gold 200.

And also like the rest of the Portras, converts well:



PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Katastrofo wrote:
Shrek and Orio, thanks for the kind words.
Orio, it would be easier for me to use NR on the BG. I have Noise Ninja
Pro, but am not really good at it yet, except for doing backgrounds.


A quick and dirty way would be to duplicate the layer, apply noise ninja on the background layer, then reactivate the foreground layer (with no NN), and with an eraser set to soft edges, erase the two figures (which will make the underlying NNed figures appear)

Otherwise the more sophisticated way you could select the figures with the magnetic lasso then set a large feather to the selection and apply NN.


PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks, Orio, I'll be practicing these tips.


PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Another great series dear my friend!


PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks, Attila! Smile


PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thats 800? WOW!!! I have to try some of the 160 or 400, probable 160 in the EOS 3. That is good film Bill. I have to order 2 new eheim canisters this week for the aquariums, you know what they cost. I lost motors after 17 years. In 3 or 4 weeks I'm going to order some porta after I recover from the canisters.


PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ron, yes, I know all about what Eheims cost, but that's the price you pay
for good, sound, German engineering. What other pump/canister would
last 17 years? Laughing

Simon Kennedy opened my eyes to Portra film originally (his 'Tate' thread)
and my friend Russ (Kiron Kid) showed me what Portra 800 can do.
It's the perfect film for zoom lenses.

Thanks for your comments, Ron, and hope to see your Portra efforts in
a few weeks! Smile

Here's a few of Russ's shots of Portra 800, burned @640:




by his permission, scans are done professionally

He uses Tammie zooms and Nikon bodies, mostly.


PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Here are a couple more:






Last flower, honest. ;o)


PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
great samples Bill!
now I have to try this portra


PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Shocked Next film what I have to buy ! Thanks! Superb samples!


PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Poilu and Attila, thanks! Hope to see some of your samples of this film
very soon!


PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
perfect results!!

tf


PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks, TF, recommend Portra when you get your medium format back. Wink


PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Very good shots, and excellent and detailed color rendition as seen particullary on pic 3. A bit on saturation on pic 2 ... i'm not a fan of hig speed films ( 400 max in color ) but the pOrtra is worth trying.

thanx for the pictures


PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Katastrofo wrote:
Thanks, TF, recommend Portra when you get your medium format back. Wink


yep, I will be looking for a body Hassy 500 C or Rapid Omega -- this is a spectacular camera .

tf


PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
hexi, thanks for your comments. I forgot to do one adjustment in #2 and
corrected that now.

TF, I hope you find a Rapid Omega at a reasonable price. The lenses are
pretty reasonable for how well they perform.


PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi Bill,

Nice quality!. Your shots are superb!...

I wouldn't expect so little grain from such a high ISO film!.
Is it because you forced it to a lower ISO?.

I've plenty of expectations with Portra 160VR that I currently have in the YashicaMat. (Roll not yet finished).

Thanks for sharing!

Jes.


PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks, Jes, looking forward to your 160VC shots!

Forgot: All these were shot at box speed, Jes. Shooting at 640 might
have reduced what little grain there is, but runs the chance of the pics
appearing a little " hot".


PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Absolutely stunning images. I give more credit to you than I do the film. Very Happy

Fantastic work!


PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Spiralcity, thanks for your comments, too kind. Smile I hope others try this
film.
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