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papah
Joined: 09 Apr 2009 Posts: 12 Location: Seattle, USA
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:43 am Post subject: Pinkham & Smith-- how it was done |
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papah wrote:
Pinkham & Smith Visual Quality 75mm f/3 lens.
Digital Post-processing for this image, How it was done, on my blog:
http://thenewpictorialism.blogspot.com/
Take a look! _________________ Bruce Hemingway
http://www.brucehemingway.com/
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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 3438 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:01 am Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
Thanks. Very interesting! |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16637 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:05 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
The result looks nice, although reaching it this way would contradict my personal "puristic" approach.
[The title is misleading, I was expecting to read about the making of a SF lens... ] _________________ Klaus - Admin
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:16 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I much prefer the original image without post-processing
it has a fantastic subtle tone gradient on the stairs (both light and colours), provided by the lens, that gets completely lost with the edits.
The only thing I would do is to crop out the lamps on the top (as you did) or, even better, clone their bottom part out while leaving some of the windows in. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16637 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:22 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
+1!! _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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izvar
Joined: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 252 Location: Moldova
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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izvar wrote:
I think in post-processing, the most important thing, is to stop in time. Therefore, imho, the second image(postprocessed) with minimal touches (composition and contrast correction) is the best. _________________ “The hardest thing of all is to find a black cat in a dark room, especially if there is no cat.”
― Confucius |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I really think that image has been ruined with all the PP, it looks way too synthetic. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Willem
Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Posts: 280 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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Willem wrote:
i like both the original and the final image. Both could have their use. I can see the processed image as a book-cover for instance. Thanks, i found it very interesting. _________________
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7788 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
Looking at the image at the top of the page here, I didn't like it very much because my immediate thought was - "the light is bent". It looks as though the light streaming down the steps then bends towards the girl, and the rays accentuate that.
When I saw the original with the windows included, the light made sense.
I like the processing, it looks very good, but I think it needs the light source including. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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Esox lucius
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 2441 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Esox lucius wrote:
I think the first is a very moody photograph, and the later is a very nice drawing. I'm more into the philosophy that Photoshop tricks should be used but not perceived, which is also the reason I like the original more. _________________ Vilhelm
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
A lot of old "pictorial" shots were just as heavily processed in the darkroom.
Modern PP is just new tools for an old requirement.
Its a matter of taste and intention.
In this case I think it works very well. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Very nice. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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56 DIN
Joined: 24 Apr 2010 Posts: 1656 Location: Germany Erbach /ODW
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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56 DIN wrote:
i am not shure which one i like most - for shure the lamps in the original shot were disturbing, agree with Orio, that the windows might have added something positive. What i do not see, is the reason for the strong vignetting in the final picture - it partially takes out the magic atmosphere of the original
i think it depends on medium and size which one works better, tending towards the original.....
nevertheless, thanks for explaining how you did it - its an extraordinary work _________________ Thomas
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