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dr.volkan
Joined: 14 Nov 2008 Posts: 436 Location: Turkey_istanbul
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:39 pm Post subject: Pentacon auto 29 2.8 MC very nice |
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dr.volkan wrote:
i love this 28 mm..What are your opinons about pictures?
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djmike
Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 930 Location: Taiwan
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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djmike wrote:
Over my expectation!! I love 2nd one. _________________
DSLR: Canon 400D
SLR: Nikon FM2 + Canon A-1 + Canon AE1-P + Praktica MTL-5B + Pentax Spotmatic F + Fujica ST801 + Voigtlander Bassematic + Voigtlander Vito + Rollei 35S + Rolleiflex SL35 ME + Canon QL17 GIII + Olympus Pen EE-3
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M42: CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4 + CZJ Flektogon Zebra 35/2.8 + CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 + CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5 + CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 Chrome + Pentacon 135/2.8 + Pentacon 50/1.8 + SMC Takumar 50/1.4 + SMC Takumar 55/2 + SMC Takumar 135/3.5 + Fujinon 55/1.8 + Jupiter-9 85/2 + Jupiter-37A 135/3.5 + Helios 44-6 58/2
Nikor: Nikkor 50/1.4 + Nikkor 28/3.5 + Nikkor 35-105 Zoom + 36-72 Series E Zoom
Canon: Canon FD + 28/2.8 + 50/1.8 + Canon 35-105 Macro Zoom
Other: Rollei Planar HFT 50/1.8
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Good subjects can help a lot to any lenses, I like your photos pretty much This lens has very mixed quality, a good one can be excellent other ones can be average or crap. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
Very nice pics.
Images with pentacon's look. I find the rendering very similar, in color and resolution way than the 1,8/50 MC has. Neutral is the key.
I like the colors but not so much the resolution power.
I never could find a good 2,8/29 copy. Anyway perhaps it's only me, than don't like the 28/35 range. I prefer the 17/24.
But you have find a very good copy. Congrats.
Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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dr.volkan
Joined: 14 Nov 2008 Posts: 436 Location: Turkey_istanbul
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:05 am Post subject: İ do not believe general comments about some lenses |
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dr.volkan wrote:
Before i heard something that 29 2.8 pentacon is not a good lens..
İ did not touch my nice lens for one year than i wanted to test 28mm lenses first i tried 28 2.8 mc Rexagon (very sharp,very useable,vivid colors...)than this german diamond 29 2.8 pentacon multi coating .İ am very happy with them.. |
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OM
Joined: 15 Jan 2010 Posts: 166 Location: Southern England
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:01 am Post subject: |
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OM wrote:
I like the colours and rendering - very natural.
My only negative comment would be the bokeh in number 3 - it is very busy and distracting in my opinion.
Otherwise excellent.
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dsmlogger
Joined: 14 Apr 2010 Posts: 178 Location: Athens, Greece
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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dsmlogger wrote:
Very nice samples!
I too like this lens because of it's colour rendering mostly (not the sharpest lens wide open...) and it really deosn't deserve the notoriety it's getting.
Sure there may be some bad copies but it is generally a very nice lens to own and use. |
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Seele
Joined: 17 Apr 2009 Posts: 742 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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Seele wrote:
I used to use this 29 a lot, now I have all three versions: the original "zebra", the fluted focussing ring, and the checkerboard ring "MC", all are good. |
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dr.volkan
Joined: 14 Nov 2008 Posts: 436 Location: Turkey_istanbul
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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dr.volkan wrote:
This lens has own character one word :natural.. |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
I forgot, when I had the copies of the lens, to do a CA test of them.
I read here that the meyer lenses are very well corrected for CA.
Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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dr.volkan
Joined: 14 Nov 2008 Posts: 436 Location: Turkey_istanbul
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:31 pm Post subject: some other examples for 29 2.8 pentacon multi coating |
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dr.volkan wrote:
please i want to hear your comments
http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/201010/915_hdfnhj_1.jpg[/img]
[img] http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/201010/915_kd2_2.jpg[/img]
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fish4570
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 4514 Location: At the confluence of the Locust Fork of the Warrior River and Black Creek, Alabama
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
Excellent photos. I much like the black and white shot of the fellows in the rain, and your portraits. You must be a likeable fellow to get so close with a 28 ... _________________ Paul
I chase Light
http://blackcreekjournal.blogspot.com/ |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
Very nice pics, congrats.
I like to see tha pentacon's images. They are very neutral.
Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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djmike
Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 930 Location: Taiwan
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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djmike wrote:
a sweet enticement definitely. _________________
DSLR: Canon 400D
SLR: Nikon FM2 + Canon A-1 + Canon AE1-P + Praktica MTL-5B + Pentax Spotmatic F + Fujica ST801 + Voigtlander Bassematic + Voigtlander Vito + Rollei 35S + Rolleiflex SL35 ME + Canon QL17 GIII + Olympus Pen EE-3
Lenses
M42: CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4 + CZJ Flektogon Zebra 35/2.8 + CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 + CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5 + CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 Chrome + Pentacon 135/2.8 + Pentacon 50/1.8 + SMC Takumar 50/1.4 + SMC Takumar 55/2 + SMC Takumar 135/3.5 + Fujinon 55/1.8 + Jupiter-9 85/2 + Jupiter-37A 135/3.5 + Helios 44-6 58/2
Nikor: Nikkor 50/1.4 + Nikkor 28/3.5 + Nikkor 35-105 Zoom + 36-72 Series E Zoom
Canon: Canon FD + 28/2.8 + 50/1.8 + Canon 35-105 Macro Zoom
Other: Rollei Planar HFT 50/1.8
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dr.volkan
Joined: 14 Nov 2008 Posts: 436 Location: Turkey_istanbul
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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dr.volkan wrote:
I am very happy that some of us open mind! |
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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 3438 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
Really surprised by the quality of the pictures with the 29mm. I think I will test mine again, however I can hardly belief that such sharp results are possible with it.
Nice pictures anyhow, great B&W. |
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dr.volkan
Joined: 14 Nov 2008 Posts: 436 Location: Turkey_istanbul
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:13 am Post subject: my technic when using 29 2.8 pentacon mc manual focus lens |
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dr.volkan wrote:
firstly i use iso 400,800
sharpness +1
vivid colors
at a cloudy very low light day i use shade white balance
software:photofiltre(made in france)
+1,-1 gamma
-1 color
-1 bright
+1 -1 contrast
+1,-1 sharpness |
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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 3438 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
Thanks for details. I will try when the weather is somewhat better. |
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dr.volkan
Joined: 14 Nov 2008 Posts: 436 Location: Turkey_istanbul
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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dr.volkan wrote:
Dear Minoflan these are for the dark rainy wheather also the white balance set shade ! This kind of wheather i can see more details with shade.. |
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Phenix jc
Joined: 19 Dec 2009 Posts: 398 Location: France
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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Phenix jc wrote:
This Pentacon is the best bokeh maker of all my 28mm on a 4/3 ;
On my sample, it's very difficult to get a correct focus wide open ; Much more difficult than with a 28/2 (or any other 28/2.8 of course) ; I don't know why. But if I succeed, once again, great bokeh ! (and sharp result) _________________ "Plonger les choses dans la lumière, c'est les plonger dans l'infini" Léonard De Vinci
f/1.2 club Zuiko : 50/1.2, 55/1.2 Rokkor : 50/1.2, 58/1.2 Nikkor : 50/1.2, 55/1.2 Third Party : Porst(Fujinon-X) 50/1.2, Porst 55/1.2 Canon : S 50/1.2, nFD 50/1.2, FL 55/1.2, R 58/1.2, nFD 85/1.2 Hexanon : 57/1.2 Nokton : 50/1.1 |
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dr.volkan
Joined: 14 Nov 2008 Posts: 436 Location: Turkey_istanbul
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:08 am Post subject: |
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dr.volkan wrote:
Yes you are the one say the truth exactly about the 29 2.8 pentacon multi coating now the wheather is very dark rainy in my beatiful country but i will try to work about your comments and i will use f:2.8 it will be interesting |
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dr.volkan
Joined: 14 Nov 2008 Posts: 436 Location: Turkey_istanbul
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:09 pm Post subject: 29mm 2.8 Pentacon Multi Coating F=2.8 images |
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dr.volkan wrote:
these 3 images are 25cm-40cm low distance iso 800
Last edited by dr.volkan on Fri Oct 15, 2010 6:55 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
Excelent images, with nice bokeh too.
Well done, man.
I feel the necesity to have try one pentacon 29 again !!
Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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Phenix jc
Joined: 19 Dec 2009 Posts: 398 Location: France
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Phenix jc wrote:
Voilà ! _________________ "Plonger les choses dans la lumière, c'est les plonger dans l'infini" Léonard De Vinci
f/1.2 club Zuiko : 50/1.2, 55/1.2 Rokkor : 50/1.2, 58/1.2 Nikkor : 50/1.2, 55/1.2 Third Party : Porst(Fujinon-X) 50/1.2, Porst 55/1.2 Canon : S 50/1.2, nFD 50/1.2, FL 55/1.2, R 58/1.2, nFD 85/1.2 Hexanon : 57/1.2 Nokton : 50/1.1 |
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djmike
Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 930 Location: Taiwan
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 3:20 am Post subject: |
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djmike wrote:
estudleon wrote: |
Excelent images, with nice bokeh too.
Well done, man.
I feel the necesity to have try one pentacon 29 again !!
Rino. |
+1, I got to survey one, too. _________________
DSLR: Canon 400D
SLR: Nikon FM2 + Canon A-1 + Canon AE1-P + Praktica MTL-5B + Pentax Spotmatic F + Fujica ST801 + Voigtlander Bassematic + Voigtlander Vito + Rollei 35S + Rolleiflex SL35 ME + Canon QL17 GIII + Olympus Pen EE-3
Lenses
M42: CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4 + CZJ Flektogon Zebra 35/2.8 + CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 + CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5 + CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 Chrome + Pentacon 135/2.8 + Pentacon 50/1.8 + SMC Takumar 50/1.4 + SMC Takumar 55/2 + SMC Takumar 135/3.5 + Fujinon 55/1.8 + Jupiter-9 85/2 + Jupiter-37A 135/3.5 + Helios 44-6 58/2
Nikor: Nikkor 50/1.4 + Nikkor 28/3.5 + Nikkor 35-105 Zoom + 36-72 Series E Zoom
Canon: Canon FD + 28/2.8 + 50/1.8 + Canon 35-105 Macro Zoom
Other: Rollei Planar HFT 50/1.8
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