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Selenium_27
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 Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:05 am Post subject: Pancolars : Zebra vs redMC |
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Selenium_27 wrote:
Hello guys !
I've made the test betwen the two pancolars I own, the first is the red MC one and the second a zebra.
Tadam...
Concerning Image white balance, no adjustment has been done. As I said previously, the two suffer from about the same amount of yellowing (very few) as you can see above. (I already had into my hands a very strongly yellowed one)
Images where taken with a pentax K200d
Focusing where performed with a focusing screen.
Focus point is the viewfinder of the right camera.
Zebra 1.8
Zebra 2.8
Zebra 4
Zebra 5.6
red MC 1.8
red MC 2.8
red MC 4
red MC 5.6
PS all images are clickable for enlarging.
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djmike
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| Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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djmike wrote:
For me, MC version has better IQ but zebra version kinda suprise me. They are close.
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
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| For me, MC version has better IQ but zebra version kinda suprise me. They are close. |
I used both in Zoo I never discover any significant difference between them.
Perhaps I am blind 
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peterqd wrote:
The Zebra colours look warmer and richer to me.
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Selenium_27
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Selenium_27 wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
I used both in Zoo I never discover any significant difference between them.
Perhaps I am blind |
no-X were suggesting a very different bokeh due to different formula but I must confess I can't really separate them, according to Attila.
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K lenses K 3.5/18, K 3.5/28, M 1.4/50 /// Used with : Pentax LX
M39 : Heliar 4.5/15, Ultron 1.7/35, Wartime CZJ Sonnar 1.5/50, Color Skopar 2.5/50 /// Used With : Voigtlander Bessa R2A, Zorki 1
P6 : CZJ Flektogon 4/50, Mir 3.5/65 CZJ Biometar 2.8/120 /// Used with : Kiev 60
Bronica bayonet : Nikkor 4/40, Nikkor 2.8/75, 4/200-- S2A currently down..
Minolta Rokkor 1.7/50, Rokkor 2.8/24 /// Used with SRT 101, XE-5 (so cute !!)
Other Bodies : Many plate folders, Gnoflex (Japanese 6x6 TLR, 3.5/75), Robin MKII (24x28, very rare and compact, 2.8/40), Rollei 35B (Triotar 3.4/40), Vito CL, Vitessa 500 (24x36 rangefinder, tessar)
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AMDBill
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| Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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AMDBill wrote:
hi
are you sure you make same focus whith zebra lens than whith black MC ?
in zebra ,the back oof area is is softer than the black one ,even at f4
i m new in this forum ,my name is julien ,i come from the same french forum (HFR) than carbonR ,pich900 and fourmixK
and i m sorry for my poor english vocabulary |
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
| AMDBill wrote: |
hi
are you sure you make same focus whith zebra lens than whith black MC ?
in zebra ,the back oof area is is softer than the black one ,even at f4
i m new in this forum ,my name is julien ,i come from the same french forum (HFR) than carbonR ,pich900 and fourmixK
and i m sorry for my poor english vocabulary |
Welcome Julien!
This is an international forum , members come from all over the world. Naturally not everybody speaking well in English so don't say sorry about that.
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fish4570
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fish4570 wrote:
i do not know how it is possible, but it seems the redmc images have more clarity-in-depth. does that make any sense? perhaps it is something the lens coating does. in any case, if i were to pick one, it would be the red mc, based only on these images.
merci beaucoup, mon ami ...
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beachboy2
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beachboy2 wrote:
Looking at the 5.6 enlargements,the zebra is much sharper than the MC photo. Focussing seems to be an issue?
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Retro
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| Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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Retro wrote:
With the present test the "MC" makes a better job.
I own both lenses and with my comparisons the "Zebra" was better.
Maybe there is a big variance of quality with each copy.
This makes sense, because the lenses are very old and so in different conditions.
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Olivier
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| Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
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| Looking at the 5.6 enlargements,the zebra is much sharper than the MC photo. Focussing seems to be an issue? |
You have the opposite results when looking at f1.8 and 2.8 where the red mc is much more sharper.
So, focusing from shot to shot should be an issue.
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Selenium_27
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Selenium_27 wrote:
Perhaps focus is totally the same for the two lens. But in a on each lens serie, a tripod was used so I doubt focus has moved.
The point I wanted to arise, was the bokeh.
The assesment I read was that the two lenses hadn't the same formula.
(the both appears in no-X table there)
The bokeh is a direct consequence of lens formula so the two relvant pictures to consider are the wide open ones, wher the effect is the greatest.
Let's do it :
Zebra
MC
The shapes are nearly identical in both images !
PS : Hello AMDBill, one more frog. We are growing 
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K lenses K 3.5/18, K 3.5/28, M 1.4/50 /// Used with : Pentax LX
M39 : Heliar 4.5/15, Ultron 1.7/35, Wartime CZJ Sonnar 1.5/50, Color Skopar 2.5/50 /// Used With : Voigtlander Bessa R2A, Zorki 1
P6 : CZJ Flektogon 4/50, Mir 3.5/65 CZJ Biometar 2.8/120 /// Used with : Kiev 60
Bronica bayonet : Nikkor 4/40, Nikkor 2.8/75, 4/200-- S2A currently down..
Minolta Rokkor 1.7/50, Rokkor 2.8/24 /// Used with SRT 101, XE-5 (so cute !!)
Other Bodies : Many plate folders, Gnoflex (Japanese 6x6 TLR, 3.5/75), Robin MKII (24x28, very rare and compact, 2.8/40), Rollei 35B (Triotar 3.4/40), Vito CL, Vitessa 500 (24x36 rangefinder, tessar)
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AMDBill
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AMDBill wrote:
froggy's invade there cause of youth people and some forumer are stupid on french forum 
not the same mentality ,more criticism even for nothing |
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pich900
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pich900 wrote:
| AMDBill wrote: |
froggy's invade there cause of youth people and some forumer are stupid on french forum
not the same mentality ,more criticism even for nothing |
He, salut froggy AMDBill .....
Over this pancolar, I'm afraid I'm also blind because I don't see so much difference between the two lenses  ...except that the MC version looks sharper wide open but no difference at all with bokeh...but I like more the look of the zebra version  ...
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
From ones, the zebra is the best, from others (me among them) the reed MC win.
The formulas are the same?
I read that the zebra scheme is the same than the F/2 zebre, this is a 6-4 (1-2/2-1). And the Mc version (red and white MC too) I saw that they are 6-5 (1-2/1-1-1) .
If that is true, the zebra and the MC are differebnt lenses, and the rendering must be different too.
All OK, but I can't see any differences between them, only a subtle one.
Rino.
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Olivier
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Olivier wrote:
| pich900 wrote: |
| AMDBill wrote: |
froggy's invade there cause of youth people and some forumer are stupid on french forum
not the same mentality ,more criticism even for nothing |
He, salut froggy AMDBill .....
Over this pancolar, I'm afraid I'm also blind because I don't see so much difference between the two lenses ...except that the MC version looks sharper wide open but no difference at all with bokeh...but I like more the look of the cobra version ... |
Bill, salut la Grenouille !
Pich, I like very much the Zebra cars and the Cobra lenses !
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pich900
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pich900 wrote:
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Pich, I like very much the Zebra cars and the Cobra lenses ! |
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Selenium_27
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Selenium_27 wrote:
| estudleon wrote: |
From ones, the zebra is the best, from others (me among them) the reed MC win.
The formulas are the same?
I read that the zebra scheme is the same than the F/2 zebre, this is a 6-4 (1-2/2-1). And the Mc version (red and white MC too) I saw that they are 6-5 (1-2/1-1-1) .
If that is true, the zebra and the MC are differebnt lenses, and the rendering must be different too.
All OK, but I can't see any differences between them, only a subtle one.
Rino. |
I linked to the no-x post in my previous post which agreed with what you said : two different formula.
But one same result.
Interesting, isn't it ?
The most striking, it is that I read (somewhere, I don't remember) that they where different and so I felt the image taken with them different.
Until I made that little comparative study..
We are poor subjective creatures
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M42 Lenses : Zenit 100/1.5 (nice !!) Super-Takumar 1.4/50, Cyclop 1.5/85, Super-Takumar 2.8/105, Tair 2.8/135, Quinar 2.8/135, Super-Takumar 4/200 /// Used with : Spotmatic, Some Zenits,..
K lenses K 3.5/18, K 3.5/28, M 1.4/50 /// Used with : Pentax LX
M39 : Heliar 4.5/15, Ultron 1.7/35, Wartime CZJ Sonnar 1.5/50, Color Skopar 2.5/50 /// Used With : Voigtlander Bessa R2A, Zorki 1
P6 : CZJ Flektogon 4/50, Mir 3.5/65 CZJ Biometar 2.8/120 /// Used with : Kiev 60
Bronica bayonet : Nikkor 4/40, Nikkor 2.8/75, 4/200-- S2A currently down..
Minolta Rokkor 1.7/50, Rokkor 2.8/24 /// Used with SRT 101, XE-5 (so cute !!)
Other Bodies : Many plate folders, Gnoflex (Japanese 6x6 TLR, 3.5/75), Robin MKII (24x28, very rare and compact, 2.8/40), Rollei 35B (Triotar 3.4/40), Vito CL, Vitessa 500 (24x36 rangefinder, tessar)
100/1.5 for sale on ebay (click here)
LOOKING FOR a bronica body : S/S, A, Z,D,EC, EC-TL, EC-TL-II
Anything I have is potentially for trade. Try PM Me
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
It's one of the things that do the forum so atractive. Here there are a lot guys that like to share their knowledge. And then our own opinion is formed by them.
Someone more practical people, others more theoreticians, but you will find here what you need.
It occur to me too.
Rino.
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CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
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peterqd
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peterqd wrote:
My version is the white MC electric. I can't compare it directly with your two lenses, but I doubt there would be any difference at all. It would be nice to dispel all the nonsense about red MC!
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Selenium_27
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Selenium_27 wrote:
@estudleon
I'm not found of tests of that kind.
I'd rather shoot outside.
But I'm a chemist and I can't fight my analytical side when I ask myself a question
@peterqd : yes ! great !
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M42 Lenses : Zenit 100/1.5 (nice !!) Super-Takumar 1.4/50, Cyclop 1.5/85, Super-Takumar 2.8/105, Tair 2.8/135, Quinar 2.8/135, Super-Takumar 4/200 /// Used with : Spotmatic, Some Zenits,..
K lenses K 3.5/18, K 3.5/28, M 1.4/50 /// Used with : Pentax LX
M39 : Heliar 4.5/15, Ultron 1.7/35, Wartime CZJ Sonnar 1.5/50, Color Skopar 2.5/50 /// Used With : Voigtlander Bessa R2A, Zorki 1
P6 : CZJ Flektogon 4/50, Mir 3.5/65 CZJ Biometar 2.8/120 /// Used with : Kiev 60
Bronica bayonet : Nikkor 4/40, Nikkor 2.8/75, 4/200-- S2A currently down..
Minolta Rokkor 1.7/50, Rokkor 2.8/24 /// Used with SRT 101, XE-5 (so cute !!)
Other Bodies : Many plate folders, Gnoflex (Japanese 6x6 TLR, 3.5/75), Robin MKII (24x28, very rare and compact, 2.8/40), Rollei 35B (Triotar 3.4/40), Vito CL, Vitessa 500 (24x36 rangefinder, tessar)
100/1.5 for sale on ebay (click here)
LOOKING FOR a bronica body : S/S, A, Z,D,EC, EC-TL, EC-TL-II
Anything I have is potentially for trade. Try PM Me
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Kram
Joined: 06 Feb 2010
Posts: 1344
Location: Portland, OR
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| Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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Kram wrote:
Happy to see that I don't need the MC. Here's my zebra at 2.8:
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