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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:21 am    Post subject: one simply question Reply with quote

what is the best 85mm lens (landscape) to use on Eos 5D2 ?

best = sharp from corner to corner


PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi

85 mm is rarelly used for landscape ,it s better for portraiture
all my 75_90mm are sharp in the center and soft in corner wide open ,it s bettre stopping down a few
i can t help you cause i never stop them down past f5.6/f8 and only for short distance shoots


PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

one simple question and one thousand different replies...

If money is not an obstacle then the Zeiss Planar T* 85/1.4 ZE is hard to beat. The Planar construction is optimized at medium to infinity focusing distance, lens sweet spot is at f/4 to f/5.6

I have made gigapanoramas and landscapes at f/5.6 to f/11 with excellent results. Of course you need to pay attention to depth of field, stop down to achieve sufficient DoF and bring detail.

http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html


PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AMDBill wrote:
hi

85 mm is rarelly used for landscape ,it s better for portraiture
all my 75_90mm are sharp in the center and soft in corner wide open ,it s bettre stopping down a few
i can t help you cause i never stop them down past f5.6/f8 and only for short distance shoots


I think metallaro1980 can decide for himself which focal length he wants to use for landscape. Many FL's are used for landscape, from fisheye to 200mm or longer (not just wideangles...).

I think the Contax Sonnar 85/2.8 could be good for landscape. The Contax Sonnar 100/3.5 is reputedly sharper and bit more so across the frame, but that obviously isn't a 85mm. Both the Contax or new Zeiss ZE 85/1.4 and 100/2 (esp. the latter) are better but require a higher budget.

I don't know much about infinity performance of other 85's. I'm sure there are some plenty sharp 85/90mm's from other brands, but IMO the Contax/Zeiss is one of the best choices to extract a lot of detail from landscapes because of the high microcontrast their lenses have.

The Canon TS-E 90/2.8 may be one to consider too. Wink


PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that the Mamiya 645 Sekor 1,9/80 could be considered. 80, not 85, but....
I like that lens a lot. Drawback is, that you will need an adapter, that might be more expensive, than many other adapters and it is not a small lens.

Klaus


PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best one is the one that you can afford!

JJ


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I were you.

Would buy a P6 lens. Like the Vega or Volna.
Then the P6->EOS tilt shift adapter.

That way you will get more control on your plane.

These lenses are cheap and very well built.
(Loving my Vega).


PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How does the new Korean lens marketed by Vivitar, Falcon, and others compare to the other classics?

By the way, the Vivitar (Tokina) 90mm Series 1 is actually 87mm and famously sharp.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can advise Biometar 80/2.8 from P6. I suppose never tested that it haven't problems with corner to corner sharpness. Not so pricey and with good adapter is infinity maintained.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best bang for the buck: the Samyang 85mm f/1.4


PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cooltouch wrote:
Best bang for the buck: the Samyang 85mm f/1.4


That's the Korean lens I was asking about.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you do a search here on "Samyang 85mm" you'll get lots of hits, many with photos. It is a very impressive lens.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:26 pm    Post subject: Re: one simply question Reply with quote

metallaro1980 wrote:
what is the best 85mm lens (landscape) to use on Eos 5D2 ?

best = sharp from corner to corner


Voigtlaender Apo-Lanthar 3.5/90
You get sharpness + no purple fringes on high contrast edges
(which you would get from non-apo lenses)
Hard to beat as landscape lens.

AMDBill wrote:
hi
85 mm is rarelly used for landscape


hm... I don't agree. I use it often for landscapes.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For landscapes, consider slower 85mm lenses like Contax Zeiss Sonnar 85/2.8 (C/Y mount) or the already mentioned Voigtlaender Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try an enlarger lens in the 80-105mm range, on bellows. My favorites are an Apos Elgeet 90/4.5 and a Novoflex Noflexar 105/3.5. Hooded, of course. Or for more versatility, a Schneider Betavaron 50-125 enlarger zoom. For B&W 'scapes with an old-time feel, I may use a Zeiss Tessar 80/2.8 that likely came from an old Ikonta, and a light violet filter to emulate early film emulsions. More conventionally, my Vivitar-Komine 90/2.8 macro is a gem.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:16 pm    Post subject: Re: one simply question Reply with quote

Orio wrote:


Voigtlaender Apo-Lanthar 3.5/90
You get sharpness + no purple fringes on high contrast edges
(which you would get from non-apo lenses)
Hard to beat as landscape lens.


Another vote from me as well. Totally forgot the SL II version is available inexpensively new Embarassed


PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say Volna-3.

Closing at f5.6 or f8, some others are very good from corner to corner.
Samyang 85 1.4.
Even the Helios-40 is to consider from f5.6 to f11.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would suggest Leica Elmarit-R 90mm late version. I have not compared it to CZ 85/2.8 but it is highly regarded and photodo rates it among the best.


PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nikkor AF 85mm f/1.8D

It's a full frame lens, has virtually no CA or distortion, and superb sharpness.

You can get a Nikon -> EOS converter, and manually focus it.

Review:
http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/100/cat/12

Great lens for low light!!