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Katastrofo
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:47 am Post subject: Nikon F4s pix |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Using Fuji Pro 800z film which doesn't seem to perform as well as the
120:
When I look at the Electronic Rangefinder in the upper right portion of
the VF and then look back at the image it looks blurred, probably because
my old eyes can't adjust quick enough from one distance to the next. |
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:47 am Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
I'm more bothered by the grain. It may have come with the scanning and that's my problem with presenting film through this digital medium. We rarely see what the owner of the film/slide sees because of the extra (imperfect) step
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:05 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Thanks, Patrick, yeah, I'm pretty appalled by the grain. These were
processed/scanned by CVS, too. |
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:15 am Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Hi Bill
I like the last one very much. Reminds me of an MC Escher (oh crap. Know I spelled that wrong) painting.
It's impressive to me that you get straight to business with your new cameras.
Mine tend to loiter about for a while before I can try them.
One cure for the grain is to view with a PDA.
Honestly don't see what you and Patrickh are talkng about But I take your word on it . _________________ Moderator |
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:18 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Thanks, Andy, I didn't use the ERF on the koi shots thinking the camera
would be fooled by the surface of the water.
Have a roll of Provia 400x ($12.50 a roll from Freestyle) that I'll be
trying next, woops, after a roll of C-41 Kodak BW400CN. |
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hexi
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 8:13 am Post subject: |
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hexi wrote:
Very soft rendition in all pix ( apart 3rd ), looks like a good film for portaits little grain but its nice, i like this. _________________ Happy owner and user of :
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Shiladitya
Joined: 31 May 2008 Posts: 306 Location: New Delhi, India
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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Shiladitya wrote:
I am sure the grain is due to low resolution scanning. Try shooting with the Provia and have them scanned high resolution (I have them scanned minimum 3140 X 2048 at 96 ppi). In this way you can resize for web viewing and print at decent sizes. Also I get them scanned in .tif so that less details are lost. You would be blown out how the velvia renders in a high resolution scan. _________________ Camera: 35mm SLR: Nikon F4s, Nikon FG, FE2, FM2n, FA; Pentax K1000, Spotmatic II, MZ60; Exakta Varex IIb, Olympus OM1n;
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Esox lucius
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 2441 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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Esox lucius wrote:
I concur.
What scanner were you using? Have you checked the scanner settings? This looks like what I got when I had scan quality set to FAST and a default film profile applied to film selection.
While many scanner software include film profiles for common brands some brands require you to do a benchmark profile scan and save settings before you get the real results. _________________ Vilhelm
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Grain does not look bad on #1 in my opinion. It adds to the soft atmosphere. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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poilu
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
I don't see any grain and I found the contrast very good
my fav is also #3 |
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Thanks, guys, these are CVS scans that generally come out a lot better
than this. I'll try scanning some of these on my scanner to see if there's
an improvement.
Orio, that was probably my best shot out of the bunch.
Poilu, thanks, she's my favorite, too. This is from Anna Karenina,
but I could take some pics of her other films and get kicked off the forum.
Thanks again, gents. |
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Attila
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
Thanks, guys, these are CVS scans that generally come out a lot better
than this. I'll try scanning some of these on my scanner to see if there's
an improvement.
Orio, that was probably my best shot out of the bunch.
Poilu, thanks, she's my favorite, too. This is from Anna Karenina,
but I could take some pics of her other films and get kicked off the forum.
Thanks again, gents. |
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