| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
PnR
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Posts: 27
|
 Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 5:59 am Post subject: Nikkor shift lenses |
 |
|
PnR wrote:
Hi,
My friend will come back home from US, so I would like ask him belp buying Nikkor 28/3.5 PC and 35/2.8 PC.
Do you have any experience of them?
I get more information from Mir.com and Kenrockwell web site, How about your recommence?
Thank you 
_________________
Ricket and Piggy |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
AhamB
Joined: 22 Jun 2008
Posts: 733
Location: Germany
|
| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:54 am Post subject: |
|
|
AhamB wrote:
Good comparison between the Nikkor 35/2.8 PC and Olympus and Zeiss here: http://www.16-9.net/lens_tests/35mm_shift/35mm_test1.html
| Quote: |
| simple conclusion: don't buy the Nikon; if you can afford it, buy the Contax – if you can't, get the Olympus. |
The Olympus can be Leitaxed to Nikon perhpaps. 
Last edited by AhamB on Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:18 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Esox lucius
Joined: 26 Aug 2008
Posts: 2441
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Expire: 2011-11-18
|
| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:56 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Esox lucius wrote:
I would be interested in the Nikkor PC lenses as well, I need something for indoor architecture.
_________________
Vilhelm
Nikon DSLR: D4, D800, Nikon D3, D70
Nikon SLR: Nikon F100, Nikon FM2n
Nikkor MF: 20/2.8 Ai-S, 24/2 Ai-S, 24/2.8 Ai-S, 28/2 Ai-S, 28/2.8 Ai-S, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 Ai-S, 45/2.8 GN, 50/1.2 Ai, 50/1.2 Ai-S, 50/1.4 Ai, 50/1.4 Ai-S, 50/1.8 AI-S "long", 50/1.8 AI-S "short", 55/1.2 Ai, 85/1.4 Ai-S, 85/1.8H, 105/2.5 Ai, 135/2.8Q, 135/3.5 Ai, 180/2.8 Ai-S ED
Nikkor AF/AF-S FX: 14-24/2.8G, 16/2.8D Fisheye, 16-35/4G VR, 17-35/2.8D, 24/1.4G, 24/3.5D PC-E, 24/2.8D, 24-70/2.8G, 28/1.4D, 28/1.8G, 35/1.4G, 35/2D, 50/1.4D, 50/1.4G, 50/1.8G, 60/2.8 Micro, 60/2.8G Micro, 70-200/2.8G VR, 70-200/2.8G VR II, 80-400/4.5-5.6D VR, 85/1.4G, 85/2.8D PC-E Micro, 105/2D DC, 105/2.8G VR Micro, 135/2D DC, 200/2G VR, 200-400/4G VR, 300/2.8G VR, 300/4D ED, 400/2.8G VR, 800/5.6E VR
Nikkor AF/AF-S DX: 10.5/2.8G Fisheye, 12-24/4G, 18-70/3.5-4.5G
Topcor: Auto-Topcor 58/1.4,
Voigtländer SL: 40/2 Ultron, 58/1.4 Nokton, 75/2.5 Color-Heliar, 90/3.5 APO-Lanthar, 125/2.5 APO-Lanthar, 180/4 APO-Lanthar
Zeiss ZF: Planar T* 85/1.4 ZF
M42 SLR: Voigtländer Bessaflex TM
M42: Flektogon 20/4, Flektogon 35/2.4, Tessar 50/2.8 T, Super-Takumar 55/1.8, Biotar 58/2 T, Pentacon 135/2.8, Sonnar 135/3.5
Medium format: several Zeiss Super Ikonta 532/16 Opton-Tessar 80mm f/2.8, Zeiss Ikonta 524/16 Opton-Tessar 75mm f/3.5
Leica: R7, M4, Super-Angulon-R 4/21, Elmarit-R 2.8/28, Summicron-R 2/35, Summicron-M 2/35, Summicron-M 2/50, Elmarit-R 2,8/180 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
eggboy
Joined: 20 May 2008
Posts: 190
Location: Western Massachusetts, USA
|
| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:27 pm Post subject: |
|
|
eggboy wrote:
I can't help myself:
http://www.loreo.com/pages/products/loreo_pccap.html
PC lens. Only US$20!
_________________
Eugene
Current Fave Lenses:
Nikkor S.C 5cm/1.4 Rangefinder with Amadeo S>M Mount
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 5cm/2 Contax RF c. 1937,
Nikkor-N 28/2 Nikon F mount
Digital Cameras:
Nikon Z 6II, Panasonic GX8
Film Cameras:
Ansco B2 6x9 Box Camera
Bronica S2
Nikon F2
List and a photo or two of my lens herd |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007
Posts: 29545
Location: West Emilia
Expire: 2012-12-04
|
| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Orio wrote:
Unless one wants:
- to use film
- to use digital but with absolute per pixel sharpness performance
I don't see the need in investing heavy money in a shift lens. Take a good normal 28mm or 35mm lens with little distortion, make a pano, and compose and straight in a pano application or in photoshop.
_________________
Orio, Administrator
T*
NE CEDE MALIS AUDENTIOR ITO
Ferrania film is reborn! http://www.filmferrania.it/
Support the Ornano film chemicals company and help them survive!
http://forum.mflenses.com/ornano-chemical-products-t55525.html |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
trifox
Joined: 14 May 2008
Posts: 3614
Location: UK
Expire: 2014-05-29
|
| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:08 pm Post subject: |
|
|
trifox wrote:
I used to have the Nikkor 28 f3.5 --
It's very good lens..
I will try to dig out some samples --
tf
_________________
Flickr.com |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
RioRico
Joined: 12 Mar 2010
Posts: 1120
Location: California or Guatemala or somewhere
|
| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:48 pm Post subject: |
|
|
RioRico wrote:
Oh yes, the Loreo. Mine cost much more than US$20. I was a sucker. More recently, I bought a Schneider PC-Cinelux AV 60/2.8 for US$20. Its shifts are about as weak as the Loreo's, but it cost much less, and is better glass. In other words, they both suck as PC lenses.
There is only one good way to do PC with a miniature (35mm or APS-C) camera. Obtain a 4x5 or 5x7 or 8x10 LF view camera. Tilt and shift as needed. Aim the miniature camera lens at the LF groundglass. Shoot.
_________________
Too many film+digi cams+lenses, oh my -- Pentax K20D, K-1000, M42s, more
The simple truth is this: There are no neutral photographs. --F-Stop Fitzgerald |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Sevo
Joined: 22 Aug 2008
Posts: 1189
Location: Frankfurt, Germany
Expire: 2012-12-03
|
| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 5:28 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Sevo wrote:
The applications of older small format shift lenses are very limited - back then there was a big gap between them and view cameras, both monetary and in terms of learning curve, so that desperation drove architects, building engineers etc. to PC lenses for whenever they could not hire a photographer for some task.
But that gap has long been filled by post-production perspective correction, so that they effectively are obsolete unless you want to get into the infinitely small niche of slide-projected architectural photography. But that does not reflect in their prices, which still are outrageously high in relation to their limited capabilities.
If you use film (and that would be about the only excuse for a PC lens), the same money will now buy you a used entry level large format camera.
For digital, software does it. And in either case, there also are the latest crop of for-digital shift/tilt Canon, Nikon and Mamiya lenses, with full movements - at a price, though...
_________________
Sevo |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
trifox
Joined: 14 May 2008
Posts: 3614
Location: UK
Expire: 2014-05-29
|
| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 5:47 pm Post subject: |
|
|
trifox wrote:
btw - the Nikkor PC 28 f3.5 which I owned covers medium format with no problem!
tf
_________________
Flickr.com |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
PnR
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Posts: 27
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:20 pm Post subject: |
|
|
PnR wrote:
Thanks all,
I will ask my friend for 35 PC , I hope getting it soon, I will take some pics.
28PC is so expensive, 
Hi Trifox, could you give us some pics taken by Nikkor PC, original size if you can.Kenrockwell recommented the large format for Tift/Shift/Wings but it's impossible when travelling around.
So thanks
_________________
Ricket and Piggy |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
AhamB
Joined: 22 Jun 2008
Posts: 733
Location: Germany
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:56 pm Post subject: |
|
|
AhamB wrote:
| Orio wrote: |
Unless one wants:
- to use film
- to use digital but with absolute per pixel sharpness performance
I don't see the need in investing heavy money in a shift lens. Take a good normal 28mm or 35mm lens with little distortion, make a pano, and compose and straight in a pano application or in photoshop. |
Panorama stitching is one thing (you can even do that with film if you just scan the exposures and stitch the scans), but perspective correction you can only do partly with digital techniques. With shift you can change the perspective and get things out of view or more into view, which you cannot do after the exposure in PS. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
egidio
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Posts: 222
Location: slovenia
|
| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:56 pm Post subject: |
|
|
egidio wrote:
photoshop is far from being the same as shift lens...and you can shift and stitch perfectly to simulate even bigger sensor as FF
_________________
I use: Flektogon 2.8/20, Flektogon 2.8/35, planar 50mm/1.4, Takumar 1.4/50mm, Takumar 1.9/85, MIR 24H, Mir1v, Industar-50-2, Helios-44-2, Pentacon 2.8/135, cyclop 85 1.5 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
Search
Memberlist
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
