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Tedat
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:14 am Post subject: |
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Tedat wrote:
_________________ Regards
Jan
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:23 am Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
I can't do anything sensible with this picture Olivier, sorry.
My picture of Jeanne d' Arc above is not meant to be an entry in the contest (not that it stands any chance anyway). _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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DigiChromeEd
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 3462 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:43 am Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
peterqd wrote: |
I can't do anything sensible with this picture Olivier, sorry.
My picture of Jeanne d' Arc above is not meant to be an entry in the contest (not that it stands any chance anyway). |
I quite like it, actually! _________________ "I've got a Nikon camera, I like to take a photograph" - Paul Simon |
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Pontus
Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 1471 Location: Jakobstad, Finland
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:55 am Post subject: |
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Pontus wrote:
_________________ Follow this link for my FOR SALE list (partially updated 19.11.2015)
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CBokeh
Joined: 15 Oct 2009 Posts: 147 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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CBokeh wrote:
peterqd wrote: |
I can't do anything sensible with this picture Olivier, sorry.
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That is my thought exactly! I still gave it a go, though I knew better...
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h00py
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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h00py wrote:
#1
#2
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Aanything
Joined: 27 Aug 2011 Posts: 2187 Location: Piacenza, Italy
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Aanything wrote:
Here's mine:
_________________ C&C and editing of my pics are always welcome
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My gear
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5084 Location: France
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
It's time to designate the winner.
Looking at the votes, there is a sole one with 2 stars.
In second place comes Edgar with a nice B&W painting effect I liked very much.
So, Bernhardas is this week's winner.
Congrats ! Please post a new contest. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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DigiChromeEd
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 3462 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
OK guys 'n gals, this week's challenge.
My grandfather died in 1935 when my father was 3 years old. I never knew what he looked like until this photo was given to me recently as I was researching my family tree. He is the gentleman at the top left wearing the cap and three of my uncles are in the front row.
I have been attempting to make a decent photo from this scan but I'm afraid some of the restoration work needed is beyond my skills at the moment. I am hoping someone can do it justice.
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CBokeh
Joined: 15 Oct 2009 Posts: 147 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 1:18 am Post subject: |
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CBokeh wrote:
DigiChromeEd wrote: |
OK guys 'n gals, this week's challenge.
I have been attempting to make a decent photo from this scan but I'm afraid some of the restoration work needed is beyond my skills at the moment. I am hoping someone can do it justice.
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Ed, without doing a lot of work, I feel I've already hit the limitations of this scan-- namely, the scan lines are very apparent. I'm sure your original photograph is pretty small, so I suggest that you redo your scan. You'll get better end results from the very talented guys who hang out here. As a rough guess, if I were you, I'd aim for 3600 pixels x 2400 pixels for just the area within the frame of the photograph.
Of course, other people may be more than happy to work with the file you've supplied. I am only offering a suggestion, feel free to ignore me! |
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bernhardas
Joined: 01 Jan 2013 Posts: 1432
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 3:59 am Post subject: |
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bernhardas wrote:
This is difficult and a higher resolution scan would be much appreciated.
This is the best I could come up with after a lot of tinkering.
If you reduce the viewing size two times (hit ctrl - two times when viewing the full picture) it looks half decent. (That is why more pixel are important)
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Tedat
Joined: 08 Nov 2011 Posts: 800 Location: Berlin/Germany
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:38 am Post subject: |
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Tedat wrote:
_________________ Regards
Jan
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Sony A7RM2
Contax T*: Distagon 4/18, Distagon 2/28, Distagon 1.4/35, PC-Distagon 2.8/35, Planar 1.4/50, Planar 1.4/85, Planar 2/100, Planar 2/135, S-Planar 2.8/60, Tessar 2.8/45, Mirotar 8/500, Vario Sonnar 3.4/35-70, Vario Sonnar 4.5-5.6/100-300
Carl Zeiss for Rollei QBM: F-Distagon 2.8/16 HFT, Distagon 2.8/25, Planar 1.4/50 HFT, Sonnar 2.8/85
Konica Hexanon AR: 2.8/21, 1.2/57
Other: Minolta F2.8 [T4.5] 135mm STF, Meopta Meostigmat 1.4/70, Tokina AT-X 2.5/90.. and lots of early M42 Yashinon, Rikenon and Mamiya lenses |
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5084 Location: France
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Sorry for being late.
Edgar, you can choose : designate the winner or post your challenge again with a better scan.
Here is my proposal.
#1
Same but framed
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bernhardas
Joined: 01 Jan 2013 Posts: 1432
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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bernhardas wrote:
Thank you very much, I am really pleased.
I can't even remember all steps I took to restore that image. I know it was a lot including a frequency separation to iron out the scan artifacts in the high and low pass separately and using a couple of topaz filters on the separated frequencies.
It might be worthwhile to note that I did not use the high pass filter for the high pass layer, but created it from a blurred version of the low frequency file by apply image and subtracting the blurred layer from a normal one with a 128 offset. That creates a high pass that "fits" like a glove to the blurred areas and is much more precise than using a high pass filter. (Because when applying a high pass you are completely guessing the strength setting and chances that your selected strength fits EXACTLY your blurred layer are slim)
If high and low pass are not exact complements you might actually introduce new additional artifacts.
The new challenge
I took this picture as part of a shoot for a competition. At that point of time we had the intended shot already done and were just fooling around on my mini set. I tried to get Amir throw the orange and get a shot with it being more or less directly at the setting sun.
I have a whole number of shots, most of which have the orange in the wrong place. With this one it is kind of OK but one of the flashes illuminating the lower part had difficulties recycling fast enough and did not fire.
The Challenge:
The horizon is not straight
The whole light needs to be fixed in the foreground background and on the person.
A different crop might be better
The orange is somehow not cool enough. Sharper? even more movement?
The light rays from the setting sun might be more intense?
Or you might want to go into a totally different cool direction?
Have fun
Raw file here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6tRhXp00RJgbXNkRUdFX0tSOEU/edit?usp=sharing
P.S. Amir was Runner Up for Mr. Dubai 2013
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bernhardas
Joined: 01 Jan 2013 Posts: 1432
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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bernhardas wrote:
Well the basic idea is to slice the picture information into parts that can be easier and more precise manipulated.
Example is a noisy color picture: you might not notice the noise badly except in the sky. So go to the blue channel and denoise only that.
You will not loose any sharpness in the rest of the picture.
Frequency separation slices the picture in two and you deal with edges separate from the rest.
For example creating a high frequency layer from your scan delivers me a picture that has only edges and a lot of black spots with all the scan noise and artifacts. A Topaz "Simplify" filter can remove the black spot, and ideally I have only edges left. Sounds a bit simpler than it is as you will have to fiddle with the settings until it works.
Hope that sheds some light on my strategy? |
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5084 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
bernhardas wrote: |
Well the basic idea is to slice the picture information into parts that can be easier and more precise manipulated.
Example is a noisy color picture: you might not notice the noise badly except in the sky. So go to the blue channel and denoise only that.
You will not loose any sharpness in the rest of the picture.
Frequency separation slices the picture in two and you deal with edges separate from the rest.
For example creating a high frequency layer from your scan delivers me a picture that has only edges and a lot of black spots with all the scan noise and artifacts. A Topaz "Simplify" filter can remove the black spot, and ideally I have only edges left. Sounds a bit simpler than it is as you will have to fiddle with the settings until it works.
Hope that sheds some light on my strategy? |
Perfectly clear.
Thanks. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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DigiChromeEd
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5084 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
_________________ Olivier - Moderator
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Tedat
Joined: 08 Nov 2011 Posts: 800 Location: Berlin/Germany
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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Tedat wrote:
_________________ Regards
Jan
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Sony A7RM2
Contax T*: Distagon 4/18, Distagon 2/28, Distagon 1.4/35, PC-Distagon 2.8/35, Planar 1.4/50, Planar 1.4/85, Planar 2/100, Planar 2/135, S-Planar 2.8/60, Tessar 2.8/45, Mirotar 8/500, Vario Sonnar 3.4/35-70, Vario Sonnar 4.5-5.6/100-300
Carl Zeiss for Rollei QBM: F-Distagon 2.8/16 HFT, Distagon 2.8/25, Planar 1.4/50 HFT, Sonnar 2.8/85
Konica Hexanon AR: 2.8/21, 1.2/57
Other: Minolta F2.8 [T4.5] 135mm STF, Meopta Meostigmat 1.4/70, Tokina AT-X 2.5/90.. and lots of early M42 Yashinon, Rikenon and Mamiya lenses |
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Fantastic sunbeams Jan, I can't compete with that. Here's my go:
The Magic Carpet
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bernhardas
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:27 am Post subject: |
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bernhardas
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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bernhardas wrote:
Time for me to close the competition.
The field was only four runners.
Peter deserves honorable mention for creativity. The orange was lost however.
From the other three entries digichromeed emphasizes the foreground while the other two tend to have stronger sunsets.
Olivier has the most vibrant sunset colors. Tedat's entry is more balanced in terms of contrast, but I wish the carpet would be a tick lighter.
Really difficult . There are elements in each that I like best.
Based on sunrays alone the winner has to be Olivier.
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Well done Olivier!
bernhardas wrote: |
Peter deserves honorable mention for creativity. The orange was lost however. |
Thankyou Bernhard. At first I couldn't understand what you meant when I read this. By mentioning "orange" in your challenge I thought
you were talking about the colour, but now I finally see what that blob blocking the sun really is! I wish I hadn't erased it. _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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Tedat
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:07 am Post subject: |
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Tedat wrote:
peterqd wrote: |
but now I finally see what that blob blocking the sun really is! |
well... the "blob" is blocking the sun only at my version... funny nobody saw this
Congrats Oliver! _________________ Regards
Jan
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Contax T*: Distagon 4/18, Distagon 2/28, Distagon 1.4/35, PC-Distagon 2.8/35, Planar 1.4/50, Planar 1.4/85, Planar 2/100, Planar 2/135, S-Planar 2.8/60, Tessar 2.8/45, Mirotar 8/500, Vario Sonnar 3.4/35-70, Vario Sonnar 4.5-5.6/100-300
Carl Zeiss for Rollei QBM: F-Distagon 2.8/16 HFT, Distagon 2.8/25, Planar 1.4/50 HFT, Sonnar 2.8/85
Konica Hexanon AR: 2.8/21, 1.2/57
Other: Minolta F2.8 [T4.5] 135mm STF, Meopta Meostigmat 1.4/70, Tokina AT-X 2.5/90.. and lots of early M42 Yashinon, Rikenon and Mamiya lenses |
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5084 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:30 am Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Wow.
Tanks a lot. 😃
I thought tat I blew the lamp light And could have made It better.
I'm out for few days, so please Jan could you post a new contesté in m'y place ?
Thx in avance.
😉 _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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