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ilovelens
Joined: 03 May 2013 Posts: 27 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:52 am Post subject: MF Lens for Sony A6000 |
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ilovelens wrote:
Hi, guys i want to learn and play around with MF lenses, So i am looking for 2 lenses for my camera i just bought.
1 for portrait and picture of some products and 1 for Landscapes. What you guys suggest?
Dont want to spend over $200
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thebbm
Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Posts: 294 Location: France montpellier
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:27 am Post subject: |
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thebbm wrote:
Hello and welcome on mflenses forum
for portrait with a crop sensor a 50mm is long enough i think. this focal length is generally cheap and offer very good performance if you take a good brand.
I found all this lenses very good :
olympus zuiko 50mm 1.4 & 1.8
minolta rokkor 50mm 1.4 pg
smc takumar 50mm 1.4
contax zeiss 50mm 1.4 & 1.7
rollei zeiss planar 50mm 1.8 ( best sharpness and lowest price )
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the landscape lens is more expensive but you can take a slowest one ( f3.5 ) to reduce the cost.
I try
Olympus zuiko 28mm f2.8 (good)
Olympus zuiko 28mm f2 (good)
minolta 28mm 2.8 ( not as good as olymus)
pentacon 28mm 2.8 ( bad ! )
yashica 24mm 2.8 ( good )
makinon 24mm ( avoid it ! )
avoid third brand like makinon |
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rudolfkremers
Joined: 10 Jun 2014 Posts: 723 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:40 am Post subject: |
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rudolfkremers wrote:
thebbm wrote: |
Hello and welcome on mflenses forum
for portrait with a crop sensor a 50mm is long enough i think. this focal length is generally cheap and offer very good performance if you take a good brand.
I found all this lenses very good :
olympus zuiko 50mm 1.4 & 1.8
minolta rokkor 50mm 1.4 pg
smc takumar 50mm 1.4
contax zeiss 50mm 1.4 & 1.7
rollei zeiss planar 50mm 1.8 ( best sharpness and lowest price )
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the landscape lens is more expensive but you can take a slowest one ( f3.5 ) to reduce the cost.
I try
Olympus zuiko 28mm f2.8 (good)
Olympus zuiko 28mm f2 (good)
minolta 28mm 2.8 ( not as good as olymus)
pentacon 28mm 2.8 ( bad ! )
yashica 24mm 2.8 ( good )
makinon 24mm ( avoid it ! )
avoid third brand like makinon |
Pentacon 28mm 2.8 bad? I get very good results with it!!
Maybe your copy was bad? _________________ https://www.rudolfkremers.com
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:40 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
The Pentacon 28mm isn't bad, in fact, it's excellent. However, there were some quality control issues so some copies are not so good. The best way is to buy an earlier metal bodied one, as it is the later plastic ones that vary most in quality. A good copy is one of the better 28mms. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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thebbm
Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Posts: 294 Location: France montpellier
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:42 am Post subject: |
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thebbm wrote:
my copy should be a bad one ! i get low constrat |
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StyxD
Joined: 18 Nov 2014 Posts: 79 Location: Italia
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:45 am Post subject: |
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StyxD wrote:
Hi, I've got a Sony A6000.
For portaits you have tons of choices, from 55mm to 85mm I could suggest you:
Minolta Rokkor 58 1.4
Olympus Zuiko 85 2.0
Jupiter 9 85 2.0 (try to get a MC version)
they should all be under 200$.
For landscape, just forget about vintage lenses. Really hard to find a good one under 200$ unless you're really lucky (Mir 20 3.5 or CZJ Flektogon 20 4.0 are the only options).
I'd buy a Sigma 19 2.8 or a Samyang 12 2.0, they're really good and optimized for an APS-C sensor. _________________ Powered by Sony A7ii, Canonet QL17 G-III, Konica Hexar RF and:
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35 2.4 - Porst 50 1.2 - Canon LTM 50 1.4 - Fujinon 55 2.2 - Topcon 58 1.4 - Leica Summicron-R 90 2.0 - Helios 44M-4 58 2.0 - Konica AE 24 2.8 - Voigtlander Nokton SC 35 1.4 - Leica-R Elmarit 135 2.8 - Leica-R Elmarit 180 2.8 - Jupiter-3 50 1.5 - Jupiter-9 85 2.0
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:53 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
thebbm wrote: |
my copy should be a bad one ! i get low constrat |
Something wrong then, the coatings are one of the strong points of that lens. Not as good as the EBC of my Fujinon 3.5/28 but still very good. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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thebbm
Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Posts: 294 Location: France montpellier
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:07 am Post subject: |
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thebbm wrote:
surely !
i just re try it now : very soft wide open and soft at f8. |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7788 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:53 am Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
My go to lenses for A6000 are currently, in no particular order -
Mamiya Sekor 55 / 1.8 very good, sharp and great colours. And cheap. ( M42 )
Minolta Rokkor 50 / 1.4 or 50 1.7 either is a good choice ( Minolta MC )
Helios 44-M or 44-2, both are 55 / 2 and wonderful lenses ( M42 )
Takumar 50 or 55, even the slower ones are excellent, ( M42 )
Yashica ML 50 / 1.7 superb lens, NOT the DSB version. ( C Y mount )
Any of the 50mm lenses from Canon, Nikon, Olympus, Pentax - they are all good lenses.
Wider lenses, I'm using a Carl Zeiss Flektogon 35 / 2.4 which is a more expensive option but superb.
For a budget lens I use -
Pentacon 30 / 3.5 which is sharp with lovely colour ( M42 )
Takumar 28 / 3.5 which is superb. ( M42 )
Yashica ML 28 / 2.8 great lens, NOT the DSB version. ( C Y mount )
Vivitar 28mm which comes in many types, most are very good, especially the close focus version. ( most common mounts )
Ensinor 24 / 2.8 or the 28 / 2.8 - this lens is seen with Clubman, Tefnon and a few other names. Cheap and remarkably good. ( most common mounts )
And again, the main brands all have good wider lenses.
All those lenses should be found for a good price, obviously store branded and third party lenses are cheaper, and some are excellent because they were made by reputable lens manufacturers. The problem is - knowing which ones to take a chance on? _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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miran
Joined: 01 Aug 2012 Posts: 1364 Location: Slovenia
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:32 am Post subject: |
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miran wrote:
For portraits and product photography on APS-C I think 50-58mm lenses work very well. Most fifties are good to excellent so you almost can't go wrong. There's a lot of them around and many are very cheap. My personal favorite is currently Pancolar 50/1.8. Very good from wide open, not expensive and focuses down to much closer than most 50mm lenses which is good for those product photos.
For landscapes I assume you'd want something wide. The wider the better. I have a Samyang 12mm/2.0 which is a great lens, very good image quality, quite small and light and very wide max aperture. It's not a vintage lens and a bit over budget but well worth the investment. _________________ my flickr stream |
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Mr G
Joined: 27 Jan 2014 Posts: 187 Location: London & Essex
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:45 am Post subject: |
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Mr G wrote:
Hi, depending on the products a 50mm macro is also an option, focus in on the detail of products and out for portraits and relatively cheap. Most branded and 2nd party lenses are usually of good quality, ie Canon 50 f3.5 or Sigma 2.8.
Sigma and Vivitar did some wides, 16 & a 17mm Series 1 respectively, and can be had for reasonable prices. _________________ EVEN A BLIND SQUIRREL FINDS A NUT NOW AND THEN! |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3666 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
I really liked the OM 21/3.5 on my NEX-7 for a wide lens, there are tons of good 50's out there that will do great as a portrait lens, an OM 50/1.4 for an example.
One of my favourite lenses on my NEX-7 is my Leica M 28 Elmarit vII, I just love it's rendering, though it's not cheap.
A differnt option is to search ebay or other sites for focal lengths you want and sort the results by price, you may find a bargain. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
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ilovelens
Joined: 03 May 2013 Posts: 27 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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ilovelens wrote:
is Carl zeiss flektogon 3.5/2.4 is it a landscape lens?
Lloydy wrote: |
My go to lenses for A6000 are currently, in no particular order -
Wider lenses, I'm using a Carl Zeiss Flektogon 35 / 2.4 which is a more expensive option but superb.
For a budget lens I use -
All those lenses should be found for a good price, obviously store branded and third party lenses are cheaper, and some are excellent because they were made by reputable lens manufacturers. The problem is - knowing which ones to take a chance on? |
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ilovelens
Joined: 03 May 2013 Posts: 27 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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ilovelens wrote:
i was actually looking at the Samyang 12mm/2.0 there is also a Rokinon one are they same thing? oh and i didnt know they were MF. So for landscapes i dont need autofocus right?
miran wrote: |
For portraits and product photography on APS-C I think 50-58mm lenses work very well. Most fifties are good to excellent so you almost can't go wrong. There's a lot of them around and many are very cheap. My personal favorite is currently Pancolar 50/1.8. Very good from wide open, not expensive and focuses down to much closer than most 50mm lenses which is good for those product photos.
For landscapes I assume you'd want something wide. The wider the better. I have a Samyang 12mm/2.0 which is a great lens, very good image quality, quite small and light and very wide max aperture. It's not a vintage lens and a bit over budget but well worth the investment. |
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ilovelens
Joined: 03 May 2013 Posts: 27 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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ilovelens wrote:
if i pay over $200 for vintage lens for Landscape than what would you recommend?
StyxD wrote: |
Hi, I've got a Sony A6000.
For portaits you have tons of choices, from 55mm to 85mm I could suggest you:
Minolta Rokkor 58 1.4
Olympus Zuiko 85 2.0
Jupiter 9 85 2.0 (try to get a MC version)
they should all be under 200$.
For landscape, just forget about vintage lenses. Really hard to find a good one under 200$ unless you're really lucky (Mir 20 3.5 or CZJ Flektogon 20 4.0 are the only options).
I'd buy a Sigma 19 2.8 or a Samyang 12 2.0, they're really good and optimized for an APS-C sensor. |
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thebbm
Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Posts: 294 Location: France montpellier
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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thebbm wrote:
The sigma 19mm is very very good. good contrast & sharpness. very small and have autofocus and a sun hood. you can found it used for 100e in europe. it's a very good option for landscape. I don't try the rokinon.
you don't need autofucus for landscape. |
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Lloydy
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
ilovelens wrote: |
is Carl zeiss flektogon 3.5/2.4 is it a landscape lens?
Lloydy wrote: |
My go to lenses for A6000 are currently, in no particular order -
Wider lenses, I'm using a Carl Zeiss Flektogon 35 / 2.4 which is a more expensive option but superb.
For a budget lens I use -
All those lenses should be found for a good price, obviously store branded and third party lenses are cheaper, and some are excellent because they were made by reputable lens manufacturers. The problem is - knowing which ones to take a chance on? |
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The Flektogon 35 2.4 is a great 'go to' lens on the A6000, it really is a jack of all trades lens from landscape to close focus down to about 6 inches. If you are looking for one lens in the wide(ish) range, this would be my choice out of the 35 lenses under 40mm that I have that I can use on the Sony. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
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thebbm
Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Posts: 294 Location: France montpellier
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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thebbm wrote:
the sigma 30mm 2.8 is at the same price than the flek smallest and optimised for the sensor
i don't try the flektogon but the 30mm is very very good specially for it price |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3666 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
If 30mm is wide enough for the landscapes you want to make, it isn't for me, I would want something in the 15-21mm range.
Tokina 17 RMC is another option.
I'm awaiting delivery of an X-Fujinon 19/3.5 at $230USD
Itm # 261662749347 and made an offer. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7788 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
The Tokina 17 3.5, I was using mine today, another great choice. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
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Aanything
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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Aanything wrote:
My favorite vintage landscape lens on nex is the flektogon 4/20: it's sharp more than enough, it has good contrast and almost zero distortion, wich is useful.
Also, the mir 3.5/20 is quite good: it suffers more from flare than the flektogon, and borders look less sharp, even if it was completely usable even on full frame.
Another solution could be the cosina made/vivitar 3.8/20. I've had one for a while and it seemed pretty respectable, especially considering that it's not in the same price league as the flektogon.
For wider than 20mm I'd suggest a modern option without hesitation. And that sigma for that price should be kept in mind too. _________________ C&C and editing of my pics are always welcome
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3666 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:29 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Ive been using the Konica 21/4 quit a bit lately on my A7r. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
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ilovelens
Joined: 03 May 2013 Posts: 27 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:54 am Post subject: |
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ilovelens wrote:
Lenses i already have is all E mount which are: 19 & 30 Sigma, 35 f1.8 , 2 kit lenses 18-55 and 16-50 Just in case if you guys can tell me based on my lenses which ones i need. |
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Tedat
Joined: 08 Nov 2011 Posts: 800 Location: Berlin/Germany
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:29 am Post subject: Re: MF Lens for Sony A6000 |
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Tedat wrote:
ilovelens wrote: |
i want to learn and play around with MF lenses |
I would start with a Helios 44 and see if you like using MF lenses. If it works for you.. just look for the already mentioned options. If not.. you didn't spend big money for something you won't use. _________________ Regards
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Carl Zeiss for Rollei QBM: F-Distagon 2.8/16 HFT, Distagon 2.8/25, Planar 1.4/50 HFT, Sonnar 2.8/85
Konica Hexanon AR: 2.8/21, 1.2/57
Other: Minolta F2.8 [T4.5] 135mm STF, Meopta Meostigmat 1.4/70, Tokina AT-X 2.5/90.. and lots of early M42 Yashinon, Rikenon and Mamiya lenses |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3666 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:41 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
You have nothing longer than 55mm
Tokina 90 macro or CV 90 APO would be nice additions. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
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