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Spotmatic
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 Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:07 pm Post subject: Meyer Orestor 1:2.8/100 |
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Spotmatic wrote:
Got this lens for a song, but it was not working (frozen diaphragm). Even the DOF preview button was missing. No problem for me though: the diaphragm was easily cleaned, and I got the mount end off a 50/1.8 Meyer Oreston (which happens to use exactly the same mount with exactly the same dimensions).
Shown next to his thinner and longer Japanese brothers (105mm f/2.8 Hanimar and 105mm f/2.8 Takumar pre-set) it makes clear that the Orestor is a fat and short German 
Some quick samples made on the dining table. I think he deserves my title "Bokeh Dwarf"
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ludoo
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| Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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ludoo wrote:
Uhm, what do you mean by "bokeh dwarf"?
Nice repair job btw  |
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Spotmatic
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| Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
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Uhm, what do you mean by "bokeh dwarf"?
Nice repair job btw |
Thanks! Well, the 135mm f/2.8 Orestor, the bigger brother of the 100mm Orestor, is often called the "Bokeh Monster". So let's just call the 100mm affectionately "Bokeh Dwarf"
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ludoo
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| Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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ludoo wrote:
| Spotmatic wrote: |
| Thanks! Well, the 135mm f/2.8 Orestor, the bigger brother of the 100mm Orestor, is often called the "Bokeh Monster". So let's just call the 100mm affectionately "Bokeh Dwarf" |
Thanks for the clarification. I'm interested in what you think about this lens as I have the Pentacon 100mm f2.8 which I assume is the same, only rebranded after the merger/acquisition/whatever. |
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Spotmatic
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| Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
| ludoo wrote: |
| Spotmatic wrote: |
| Thanks! Well, the 135mm f/2.8 Orestor, the bigger brother of the 100mm Orestor, is often called the "Bokeh Monster". So let's just call the 100mm affectionately "Bokeh Dwarf" |
Thanks for the clarification. I'm interested in what you think about this lens as I have the Pentacon 100mm f2.8 which I assume is the same, only rebranded after the merger/acquisition/whatever. |
Yes, it should be the same. Please give me a few days to take some more samples. I'll post them in this topic of course. I'll probably also compare it to the 100mm f/2.8 Trioplan and the 105mm f/2.8 Takumar. Let's see...
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My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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ludoo
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| Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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ludoo wrote:
| Spotmatic wrote: |
| Yes, it should be the same. Please give me a few days to take some more samples. I'll post them in this topic of course. I'll probably also compare it to the 100mm f/2.8 Trioplan and the 105mm f/2.8 Takumar. Let's see... |
It will be interesting to see your results and know your conclusions. If we lived nearby I could loan you the Fujinon 100 2.8 and Tamron 105 2.5, to do a big shootout of 100/105mm lenses. |
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Rense
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| Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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Rense wrote:
Just received a Orestor 100mm f/2.8 and a Sonnar 135mm f/4 (both in beautifull condition) from forum member mflex-on. Will post examples in the weekend.
@spotmatic: how do you compare the 105mm Tak preset to the Orestor ?
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Spotmatic
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
@Resnse: purely a feeling, but I like the Orestor more. Also I wonder if the Tak is indeed 105mm or the Orestor is a bit less long than 100mm? Because I find the Tak has a larger magnification than you would think looking at the 5mm difference.
Anyway, here's some more Orestor shots. I definitely like the sharpness wide open (!) and also the natural colors.
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trifox
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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trifox wrote:
Well, Spotamtic -- firstly congrats to your new lens -- I have had this lens before ..
It's a GREAT piece of glass and VERY small .. I sold it -- maybe mistake 
I also love your samples they're ALWAYS great.. !
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natebarnz
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natebarnz wrote:
Wow great samples. I have the Oreston 50/1.8 and I am greatly impressed with it, but now I want this one.
Thanks for sharing.
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spleenone
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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spleenone wrote:
Beautiful portraiture. Simply beautiful.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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Schnauzer wrote:
Seems a really nice lense and obviously you know how to use it.
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LucisPictor
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LucisPictor wrote:
Fantastic lens and great job! Well done!
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
These look great Peter.
I have the Pentacon Electric version that I bought from Sorin ages ago.
Have yet too put it to paces yet.
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metallaro1980 wrote:
bokeh of orestor 2.8/100 vs bokeh of canon 2.8/100 L IS macro.
who wins ? who is the best ?
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metallaro1980 wrote:
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metallaro1980
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metallaro1980 wrote:
i love this lens!
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AlcatrazT2 wrote:
Are there any directions online to pop open the Orestor 100/2.8?
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sam2004 wrote:
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@Resnse: purely a feeling, but I like the Orestor more. Also I wonder if the Tak is indeed 105mm or the Orestor is a bit less long than 100mm? Because I find the Tak has a larger magnification than you would think looking at the 5mm difference.
.......and also the natural colors.
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skida wrote:
Stunning example shots, Spotmatic. That seems to be a wonderful lens.
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