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Attila
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:34 pm Post subject: Look at this !! |
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Attila wrote:
http://www.pbase.com/recbo/compare_75_80_85 _________________ -------------------------------
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
This guy is great. He really puts a lot of time and money into lens research. All done with Sigma I think so, lots of customizing. Impressive results with the old lenses. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Yes !! He is a very nice guy we are keep mailing he gave many excellent material to improve mflenses.com. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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F16SUNSHINE
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Yes, I forgot to mention that. He is a really nice guy. He bought a lens from me. Afterward he forwarded many useful bits of info re: Sigma foveon cameras to me over a couple months. It is great to find such people. I think it is good to give them some recognition. |
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
I wonder if we could induce him to join the forum? We already have a couple of Sigma users dont we?
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
We really should invite him! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Let's do. I will forward this thread to him. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I invitated him at very first time I hope you will have better luck. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Maxim
Joined: 27 Oct 2007 Posts: 284 Location: Poland 52°N 17°E
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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Maxim wrote:
Nice to see these ancient Biotars. I love theirs design and they're also great good lenses for use today! There's some mistake in the description below the photo: http://www.pbase.com/recbo/image/92519049/large
Lens on right is the oldest, two lenses on left are newer, two lenses in centre are the newest (after 1952; the design is typical for lenses from 50's). Look at the serial numbers and the describe of focal length (till 1952 focal length of CZJ lenses was signed in centimetres and then in millimetres). _________________ Regards,
Hubert
E-300 + ZD 14-42 + Tessar 5cm/3.5 + Mamiya 55/1.4 + Primoplan V 58/1.9 + Biotar 5.8cm/2 + MC Helios 44M-6 58/2 + Trioplan 100/2.8 + Trioplan V 100/2.8 + "Olympia" Sonnar 180/2.8 + ЮПИТЕР-6 180/2.8 + Telemegor 400/5.5
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Well I sent the link and a short message. We will see what happens. Hopefully Bob will join. These results are really impressive. I want to look at them more with my real monitor at home (I'm on the iPhone). It really shows how old designs are still very relevant. I expected the Contax to show it's youthfulness in the crop. Not so apparently. |
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
sunshine wrote: |
I expected the Contax to show it's youthfulness in the crop |
what about the iPhone lcd youthfulness _________________ T* |
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F16SUNSHINE
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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BobDodds
Joined: 13 Nov 2007 Posts: 87
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:54 am Post subject: Hi |
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BobDodds wrote:
Attila persuaded me to look at Carl Zeiss Jena lenses.
Andy inspired me to try a Russian cine lens as a macro lens. It works for dof and it's a macro lens that zooms, but I have only looked through the viewfinder so far. I bought some Cook-Taylor-Hobsons and Cine Ektars to try at that also.
Alf DaSigmaGuy in Sigma forum at dpreview.com taught me a lot about manual lenses and conversions.
dslr and computer allow us to get more than ever out of biotar 75, because we can adjust the white balance to each aperture setting and lighting condition. Otherwise the lens is as sharp as we could want.
As I looked at the 1930's Biotar 75mm f1.5, it had several signs of forgery. I had been to a web site that said to look for the right size of red triangle, the red T, small letters saying certain things on the front ring. No red triangle, big widely spaced lettering on the front ring, and I was wondering if I had been snookered. Then I tested the lenses, and the old biotar 75 did better than the 1951. I haven't tried the second version fat biotars yet. I expect their optics to be the same, but their irises do not have so many leaves for the bokeh.
Luis Guevera is converting Leica R lenses to Sigma. I would like to convert R directly to Sigma mount plate but I can't afford a Leica lens yet. Luis thinks he can modify the SD14 ir-dust filter to allow more R lenses and some M42 like Yashinon 28/2.8 and Pancolars to fit where the rear element is too long now. Pancolars work to 30-40 feet or ten to 12 meters on SD14, good enough for portraits, but Yashinon 28/2.8 and 55/1.4 not at all.
It would be easy to convert most Zuiko and Contax lenses to M42. A few of the Zuiko primes have ED glass. So far I am converting them to Sigma, but after I get one of each for myself, I will try M42.
M42 originated with the eastern German cameras, didn't it? And slr, too?
R: forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1027&message=26413223
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F16SUNSHINE
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:07 am Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Welcome aboard Bob. We are all just a fun bunch of glass junkies. Your experiences and opinions will be a welcome addition. Most of us use Canon, Nikon, and Olympus cameras. It will be great to see the results you get from the Sigma Foveon with some of the lenses we all have in common.
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:17 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Welcome on board, Bob. I am interested in seeing Foveon sensor photos. I suffer from the limitation of the CCD/CMOS sensor in blues and reds. But I am not ready to hardware-convert my lenses. So I hope that in the future the Foveon sensor may find it's way on cameras that allow me to use my current set of lenses with adapters.
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M42 originated with the eastern German cameras, didn't it? And slr, too? |
Yes it was Zeiss Contax S in 1949 the first camera to feature the M42 mount.
As for SLR, I am not 100% sure but I think the first SLR camera was an Exakta model (also German).
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BobDodds
Joined: 13 Nov 2007 Posts: 87
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:20 am Post subject: |
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BobDodds wrote:
I'm trying to get a Zeiss lens for everything, then Zuiko for everything. In film I only used Olympus. That's a lot of lenses, but one could also compare Nikon and Leica R and Canon EF lenses on Sigma Foveon. I'd like to at least try one Leica and one Nikon lens.
I might end up using mostly Zeiss with a CZJ biotar 75 and a Tomioka 55mm f1.2, and a parallel universe of all Zuiko. Zuiko does not have quality through the entire range, but there are a number of masterpieces in their line-up.
A few more weird masterpieces might be Spiratone or Porst or Raynox 135/1.8, and Porst or Cosina 55mm f1.2. |
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:16 am Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Welcome Bob you have a lot to offer this group. I remember Alf Dasigmaguy well - lived in Fulham London near where I grew up. He was pretty obsessed with the foveon look and used some of the crazier lenses I have seen (but managed extraordinarily well with them). I came very close to getting a Sigma (days of the SD9) but could not get around the proprietary software/lenses issues at that time. I also cannot be convinced that Sigma lenses are the best (although I do own and use 2 of them). Now you can show us how well all these lovely old lenses are interpreted on the Sigma. I for one am anxiously waiting to see. That sample of the Biotars was terrific. I agree with Orio on the colour issues with our traditional chips - nikons are notoriously difficult with reds - although I have recently seen signs of improvement with some of the older russian lenses. I have no idea why that should be. But welcome indeed - and you will be supporrt for the couple of sigma users already among us.
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:12 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Hey Bob, nice to see you here! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Welcome, Bob!
Thanks for joining. It is always nice to get some "fresh blood", eps. when it brings useful knowledge. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
Things ON SALE
Carsten = "KAPCTEH" = "Karusutenu" | T-shirt?.........................My photos from Emilia: http://www.schouler.net/emilia/emilia2011.html
My gear: http://retrocameracs.wordpress.com/ausrustung/
Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
http://www.retrocamera.de |
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Richard_D
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2378 Location: Faversham Kent UK
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
Welcome to the forum. I like the way both Sigma and Fuji are attempting different sensors to the norm. _________________ Richard
The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.
More to come... |
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