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exaklaus
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exaklaus wrote:
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it's really confusing, beacause some lenses which are identical in shape, were manufactured in both alu and chromed brass version |
To make it more confusing: There are some bi-metal-ones, too, half chromed brass and half aluminum... #2826030
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Spotmatic
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| Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
| exaklaus wrote: |
| no-X wrote: |
it's really confusing, beacause some lenses which are identical in shape, were manufactured in both alu and chromed brass version |
To make it more confusing: There are some bi-metal-ones, to, half chromed brass and half aluminum... #2826030
Klaus |
Not to mention the strange fact that my brass version #3067082 (pictured below, shown again to be 100% clear) has a M42 mount in... aluminium!
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no-X
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| Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
I think that some of these lenses (or its parts) were manufactured at the end of war time, but they were assembled later. Maybe they were manufactured dureing war with exakta mount, which was replaced by M42 mount after war.
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Keysersoze27
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| Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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Keysersoze27 wrote:
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Nice lens, but is it T-marked? |
No but it's can be use as a picture in the list for this one
Tessar T 40/4.5
1 pre war "4cm" (???)<--- 
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40mm: CZJ Tessar T 4.5/40 1Q
50mm: CZ Planar 1.4/50 MMJ,CZ Planar 1.7/50 AEJ+MMJ,Leica Summicron 2/50 v3,S-M-C Takumar 1.4/50,Pentax SMC 1.4/50 K,Pentax SMC 1.8/55 K,Nikkor 1.8/50 ,CZJ Tessar T 3.5/50 1Q , CZ Planar 1.8/50 (QBM),Zuiko 1.4/50, Zuiko 1.8/50, Icarex Tessar 2.8/50, Nikkor 2/50 Ai,Schneider Kreuznach Xenar 2.8/50 Preset, Pentacon Prakticar 2.4/50 MC v1, CZJ Pancolar 1.8/50 Zebra , Rikenon 1.4/50 P
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135mm: Leica Elmarit R 2.8/135 v2, S-M-C Takumar 3.5/135, CZJ 4/135 Sonnar Exakta leatherette (1963),CZJ 4/135 Triotar
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Keysersoze27
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| Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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Keysersoze27 wrote:
....but this one is the 4cm 4.5 T one 
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40mm: CZJ Tessar T 4.5/40 1Q
50mm: CZ Planar 1.4/50 MMJ,CZ Planar 1.7/50 AEJ+MMJ,Leica Summicron 2/50 v3,S-M-C Takumar 1.4/50,Pentax SMC 1.4/50 K,Pentax SMC 1.8/55 K,Nikkor 1.8/50 ,CZJ Tessar T 3.5/50 1Q , CZ Planar 1.8/50 (QBM),Zuiko 1.4/50, Zuiko 1.8/50, Icarex Tessar 2.8/50, Nikkor 2/50 Ai,Schneider Kreuznach Xenar 2.8/50 Preset, Pentacon Prakticar 2.4/50 MC v1, CZJ Pancolar 1.8/50 Zebra , Rikenon 1.4/50 P
55mm: Fujinon 1.8/55 EBC
58mm: Helios MC 44-3 2/58
85mm: Zeiss Sonnar 2.8/85 AEJ
90mm: Voigtl�nder APO-Lanthar 3.5/90 SLII , Leica Elmarit-R 2.8/90 v2
100~105mm:Zeiss Sonnar 3.5/100 MM, Nikkor 2.5/105 AiS, S-M-C Takumar 2.8/105
135mm: Leica Elmarit R 2.8/135 v2, S-M-C Takumar 3.5/135, CZJ 4/135 Sonnar Exakta leatherette (1963),CZJ 4/135 Triotar
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Spotmatic
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| Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
My two Biotars. Left the alu 58mm f/2 T version, right the chromed brass 5,8cm f/2 T version. Also notice the difference in the color of the coating. I suppose the 5,8cm version has a somewhat simpler coating, which was improved in the later 58mm version.
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Lightshow
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Lightshow wrote:
Sorry to bump an old thread, but I've been wondering about T coatings and Flektogons, I don't see many being labeled T, how rare are they? I mean, I thought they didn't make any, so I never even looked for one.
Not my pic:
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Pancolart
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| Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Let me resurrect this valuable post with a question:
Tessar T 50/3.5
pre-war, manual, "5cm", ALU, 14 blades [picture]
post-war, pre-set, ALU [picture]
I think post war model has 12 blades?
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Max78
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| Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 11:19 am Post subject: |
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Max78 wrote:
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Let me resurrect this valuable post with a question:
Tessar T 50/3.5
pre-war, manual, "5cm", ALU, 14 blades [picture]
post-war, pre-set, ALU [picture]
I think post war model has 12 blades?] |
IMHO the serial number is the best way to determine pre- or post-war Your lens is. If it is above 3 millions, it will be definitely post-war lens. Zeiss Jena pre-war lenses with the original T coating are very rare. Some history about the T coating can be found here: https://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?169355-quot-When-did-pre-war-Zeiss-start-applying-coatings-quot-and-other-questions-about-Tessars&p=1649568&viewfull=1#post1649568 |
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Pancolart
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 8:22 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
It was aperture count related inquiry. Serial number does not help there.
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Max78
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Max78 wrote:
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It was aperture count related inquiry. Serial number does not help there. |
Early post-war Tessars have 17 blades. |
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