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alaios
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 Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 6:51 am Post subject: Light meters |
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alaios wrote:
Hi all,
I am looking on the ebay for light meters. Ideally I would like to have a spot meter but they are pretty expensive for my budget (over 200$) so there are the normal light meters that I was thinking to try. The can cost just some dollars and they are reported that work pretty okay. Do not you think that a light meter at my jacket pocket would be always a very nice way to confirm the lighting my eyes read on specific locations?
I would like to thank you in advance for your reply
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dan_
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 7:11 am Post subject: |
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dan_ wrote:
The old Pentax Optio 750z P&S camera has a special "Digital Exposure Meter" mode that practically transforms it into a dedicated digital light meter/spot meter for film cameras. It is not larger than a professional light meter/spot meter and works very well. You can find it for under $100 (I have payed for mine ~$60).
This solution is very convenient as you can use it to take digital test-photos as well (somehow like a Polaroid  ) .
After getting mine I'm not using anymore my dedicated spot meter and think of selling it.
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Excalibur
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 7:19 am Post subject: Re: Light meters |
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Excalibur wrote:
| alaios wrote: |
Hi all,
I am looking on the ebay for light meters. Ideally I would like to have a spot meter but they are pretty expensive for my budget (over 200$) so there are the normal light meters that I was thinking to try. The can cost just some dollars and they are reported that work pretty okay. Do not you think that a light meter at my jacket pocket would be always a very nice way to confirm the lighting my eyes read on specific locations?
I would like to thank you in advance for your reply
Regards
Alex |
In another thread it was suggested you can buy a small compact digital camera for £5 to £10...well can't you use that for exposure readings, also some mobile phones can be used......only guesses as I don't know much about digital stuff as I'm a dedicated film user.
http://forum.mflenses.com/small-compact-with-good-iq-t66288.html
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dan_
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 7:40 am Post subject: Re: Light meters |
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dan_ wrote:
| Excalibur wrote: |
In another thread it was suggested you can buy a small compact digital camera for £5 to £10...well can't you use that for exposure readings, also some mobile phones can be used......only guesses as I don't know much about digital stuff as I'm a dedicated film user.
http://forum.mflenses.com/small-compact-with-good-iq-t66288.html |
Before getting my Optio I have tried other cheap P&S and was not content with any of them. Their ISO settings are not very well balanced with the standard film ISO and reading/setting the exposure settings on their screen is not so convenient. I couldn't find another one to behave well enough as a light meter.
With the dedicated "Digital Exposure Meter" mode of the Optio you have the interface of a professional spot meter and, by sing the zoom in the camera, you practically have a zoom-spot meter.
I've compared the readings from Optio's "Digital Exposure Meter" mode with the readings from my Sekonic L-508 Zoom Master dedicated spot meter. The only difference I could find was of an ~1/5 of a exposure stop on intense red objects (that is very good, indeed).
It would be interesting to hear some opinions from members using the mobile phones as light meters.
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alaios
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alaios wrote:
I would like to skip all these digital alternatives. I do not have a smart phone and I find that the old analogue instruments can be more precise for such kind of work. The things bother me mostly is
a. Which one?
b. will it fit in my pocket?
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Excalibur
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 8:44 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
| alaios wrote: |
I would like to skip all these digital alternatives. I do not have a smart phone and I find that the old analogue instruments can be more precise for such kind of work. The things bother me mostly is
a. Which one?
b. will it fit in my pocket?
Alex |
Well don't forget an exposure meter is only as good as you are in interpreting the readings...e.g. a white house included in your scenery shot, so you take a spot reading of the house, then set your camera to the exposure reading...well you have the wrong exposure for your shot.
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philslizzy
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philslizzy wrote:
An old one will have issues I have 6 or 7 and none of them agree.
However ones to look out for are Weston Master models 4, 5 or Euromaster. Earlier models may have old film speeds rather than ASA (the equivalent if ISO). Battery powered ones may use the PX625 mercury battery. Its alternative the PX625A is a different voltage.
here is a link to a Weston, the listing states that is near mint and responds to light correctly. Possibly take a chance. I'm sure, with this description, you will have a case if it turns out to be faulty. Click here to see on Ebay
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Excalibur
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Excalibur wrote:
H'mm that Weston is too expensive and looks like you don't even get an invercone as well.
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philslizzy
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philslizzy wrote:
People use invercones?
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alaios
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alaios wrote:
Hi thanks
I guess you are suggesting the Posted: Weston Master models 4, 5 or Euromaster as perhaps they would be working better. The price for the link you gave is very good I was just thinking if I should try a spot light meter
as they are also not expensive see for example this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SEKONIC-DIGI-SPOT-L-488-FLASHMETER-LIGHT-METER-w-CASE-/161310848502?pt=US_Light_Meters&hash=item258ee035f6
I also understand that I have to learn how to read the reading. I think that having such a light meter with me is a very very good exercise take it out and see if you guessed close enough the light.
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Excalibur
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Excalibur wrote:
| philslizzy wrote: |
| People use invercones? |
 Some still do for incident light readings......yanno stand by the subject and point the meter to where the camera is, well I can't be bothered with all that and rely on reflective equivalent of the grey card.
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Excalibur
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Excalibur wrote:
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I also understand that I have to learn how to read the reading. I think that having such a light meter with me is a very very good exercise take it out and see if you guessed close enough the light.
Regards
Alex |
H'mm nice meter but for that money I'd rather have a nice lens or a Canon T90 (well I've got one) that can take spot readings. Anyway have you thought this out  So e.g. will you look at the trunk of a tree say in partial shadow, then you are going to estimate what the exposure reading you think it should be for a correct exposed shot, then check with the spotmeter to see if your guess was right
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trev wrote:
I swear by my sekonic studio delux L-28c
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