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Kathmandu
Joined: 09 Dec 2009 Posts: 1479 Location: (Kathmandu,Nepal. Currently)Pacific Northwest, USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:40 am Post subject: Lenses I received today as a package deal |
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Kathmandu wrote:
I received a package deal of 6 cameras-3 Exaktas- with Xenon 50mm f1.9, Pancolar 50mm-f2 and a Domiplan. I also received a Praktica with a Primoplan 50mm f1.9(The whole thing looked good to me just because of this lens.). And 2 Agfa cameras.
Unfortunately the Primoplan to my horror was infected with fungus.--and I cannot clean it off completely-I tried the cold cream plus naptha method.
The Schneider Xenon has aperture blades that are needing cleanup-they're responding very x 2 slowly. Anybody familiar with this version of Xenon-?
I have communicated to the seller for a small refund rather than ship it back-the box is heavy with the 6 cameras.
Regards _________________ kathmandu
Sony α 700 DSLR
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:18 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Have you taken any test images with the primoplan?... to see how bad the etching of the fungus may effect picture quality. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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IAZA
Joined: 16 Apr 2010 Posts: 2587 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:32 am Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
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The whole thing looked good to me just because of this lens. |
To me Xenon is best from the package _________________ nex5, Olympus EPM1, yashica half 14, Canon eos 650 want to see samples of mine? please click My lenses
and My gallery
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pdccameras
Joined: 23 Aug 2009 Posts: 825 Location: Putnam, CT
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:49 am Post subject: |
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pdccameras wrote:
IAZA wrote: |
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The whole thing looked good to me just because of this lens. |
To me Xenon is best from the package |
It certainly was the premium option when you bought your new Exakta. I have one that came with a VXIia. It is a decent performer. If you depress the shutter release and rotate the black collar you essentially turn the lens into a manual aperture lens. Think of it like the A/M switch on a Super Takumar.
I am looking forward to see what kind of images you get.
P. _________________ Canon 5D Mii, Canon 40D, Canon 350D IR, Sony A7 Mii, Sony Alpha-6000, a ton of lenses: AF & MF and too many cameras to count, all formats: 110 - 4x5. |
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Kathmandu
Joined: 09 Dec 2009 Posts: 1479 Location: (Kathmandu,Nepal. Currently)Pacific Northwest, USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:04 am Post subject: |
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Kathmandu wrote:
mo wrote: |
Have you taken any test images with the primoplan?... to see how bad the etching of the fungus may effect picture quality. |
I'll have to take some photos -its sitting in a UV box at the moment.
To my surprise and delight I received a "Starwars" Pancolar in Exakta mount. The glass on this is amazingly nice-the focus aperture all appear to be A1. I had an old M42 mount from an old, "Starwars" Tessar. I swapped the mount and now I have an excellent Pancolar for use. So it wasn't all bad, I guess.
IAZA wrote: |
To me Xenon is best from the package |
Thats nice to hear. I have seen some great sample images from it.
I need to open this baby up and flood the blades in Naptha or clean it in some fashion-its between slow and stuck. A few shakes gets it to the aperture I set it to.
Thanks _________________ kathmandu
Sony α 700 DSLR
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IAZA
Joined: 16 Apr 2010 Posts: 2587 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:18 am Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
pdccameras wrote: |
IAZA wrote: |
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The whole thing looked good to me just because of this lens. |
To me Xenon is best from the package |
It certainly was the premium option when you bought your new Exakta. I have one that came with a VXIia. It is a decent performer. If you depress the shutter release and rotate the black collar you essentially turn the lens into a manual aperture lens. Think of it like the A/M switch on a Super Takumar.
I am looking forward to see what kind of images you get.
P. |
too bad, I always lost in bidding to get this. So it kinda wish list
Pancolar 50/2 is great. it has swirly bokeh, but not as swirly as biotar. very nice for portrait
I wish you luck Kath, btw how much you paid for whole package? _________________ nex5, Olympus EPM1, yashica half 14, Canon eos 650 want to see samples of mine? please click My lenses
and My gallery
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Kathmandu
Joined: 09 Dec 2009 Posts: 1479 Location: (Kathmandu,Nepal. Currently)Pacific Northwest, USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:56 am Post subject: |
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Kathmandu wrote:
pdccameras wrote: |
It certainly was the premium option when you bought your new Exakta. I have one that came with a VXIia. It is a decent performer. If you depress the shutter release and rotate the black collar you essentially turn the lens into a manual aperture lens. Think of it like the A/M switch on a Super Takumar.
I am looking forward to see what kind of images you get.
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Yeah I noticed that too
IAZA wrote: |
too bad, I always lost in bidding to get this. So it kinda wish list
Pancolar 50/2 is great. it has swirly bokeh, but not as swirly as biotar. very nice for portrait
I wish you luck Kath, btw how much you paid for whole package? |
200 greenbacks -thanks _________________ kathmandu
Sony α 700 DSLR
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:46 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
It seems a reasonable price for what you got...my 2 pancolars are away getting a service..
The starwars pancolars look so cool,I hope you can post up some images in the equipment section.. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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Kathmandu
Joined: 09 Dec 2009 Posts: 1479 Location: (Kathmandu,Nepal. Currently)Pacific Northwest, USA
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:02 am Post subject: |
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Kathmandu wrote:
Images from fungus infected Primoplan, taken right before dark-(all wide open) on Sony Alpha 700.
I guess it looks like a keeper even with fungus streaks.
Regards _________________ kathmandu
Sony α 700 DSLR
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:03 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Renders similar to the Primotar 3.5/135 - not that sharp but great bokeh. I love my Primotar for the bokeh but wish it was sharper for some subjects. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:53 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I would keep it for sure...I like that bokeh. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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Kathmandu
Joined: 09 Dec 2009 Posts: 1479 Location: (Kathmandu,Nepal. Currently)Pacific Northwest, USA
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:41 am Post subject: |
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Kathmandu wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Renders similar to the Primotar 3.5/135 - not that sharp but great bokeh. I love my Primotar for the bokeh but wish it was sharper for some subjects. |
I think its sharp enough, and I lam liking color and bokeh. You know- I have a Primotar waiting to get converted from Praktina mount, and I have not been able to take any test shots- can you post some Primotar images that you're talking of . I am loving these Meyer lens bokeh _________________ kathmandu
Sony α 700 DSLR
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Kathmandu
Joined: 09 Dec 2009 Posts: 1479 Location: (Kathmandu,Nepal. Currently)Pacific Northwest, USA
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:45 am Post subject: |
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Kathmandu wrote:
mo wrote: |
I would keep it for sure...I like that bokeh. |
I am liking the swirls-. _________________ kathmandu
Sony α 700 DSLR
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ChromaticAberration
Joined: 23 Dec 2010 Posts: 819 Location: Portugal
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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ChromaticAberration wrote:
People definetly give too much importance to fungae infections (I do too!).
I have a alens with a very badly ruined coating on the edges of the front element and guess what, I get very good color rendition, contraste, sharpness, etc. In my opinion fungae are most of the times no more than a excuse to lower the price and ok, they look awful but once once get past the cosmetic issue, it's no big deal.
The primoplan is rendering very nice images, keep it. _________________ Body: Fujifilm X-E1
Landscapes: Samyang 12mm f/2 NCS CS
Macro: Vivitar Series 1 105mm Æ’/2.5
Portrait: Helios-44 58mm Æ’/2.0
Low-light: SMC Takumar 50mm Æ’/1.4
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Kathmandu wrote: |
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Renders similar to the Primotar 3.5/135 - not that sharp but great bokeh. I love my Primotar for the bokeh but wish it was sharper for some subjects. |
I think its sharp enough, and I lam liking color and bokeh. You know- I have a Primotar waiting to get converted from Praktina mount, and I have not been able to take any test shots- can you post some Primotar images that you're talking of . I am loving these Meyer lens bokeh |
Here are some Primotar samples, all wide open, it's sharp enough but noticeably less sharp than my Pentacon 2.8/135:
_________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Kathmandu, congrats on your find! What camera bodies were in this
sale?
I have a Primotar E (with the red 'V') 3.5/50 that I've never tried. I think
it's a triplet lens, but need to check further. |
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Kathmandu
Joined: 09 Dec 2009 Posts: 1479 Location: (Kathmandu,Nepal. Currently)Pacific Northwest, USA
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Kathmandu wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
Kathmandu, congrats on your find! What camera bodies were in this
sale?
I have a Primotar E (with the red 'V') 3.5/50 that I've never tried. I think
it's a triplet lens, but need to check further. |
Thank you, I received an Exakta VIIA,a VIIB, an Exa-Ia, a Praktica, a Selectaflex , an Agfa Color-Agnar viewfinder, a Kodak Box camera, and a Kodak Brownie.. That Primotar E sounds like a sharp lens-congrats. _________________ kathmandu
Sony α 700 DSLR
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