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 Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:02 pm Post subject: Leica Vario-Elmar-R 3.5/35-70mm (1. version by Minolta) |
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Rolf wrote:
Hi,
got this lens few days ago at my dear dealer for a good price. Tried it out today with Canon 1DsMkIII and adapter to find out whether it is worth for conversion to Nikon F mount or not.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
and it is, isn't it ? 
Why do you want to convert it to Nikon F mount ?
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| Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
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and it is, isn't it ?
Why do you want to convert it to Nikon F mount ? |
Hi Olivier,
I made some other shots this evening and I will sleep a night over this problem. At the moment I believe, yes - it is.
I decided to use my Canon only with the EF lenses (for situations with no space for experiments), the Nikon with the converted Leica lenses and some older Nikkor lenses and the K-5 mainly with my M42 arsenal or if I need high ISO.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
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Hi Olivier,
I made some other shots this evening and I will sleep a night over this problem. At the moment I believe, yes - it is.
I decided to use my Canon only with the EF lenses (for situations with no space for experiments), the Nikon with the converted Leica lenses and some older Nikkor lenses and the K-5 mainly with my M42 arsenal or if I need high ISO.
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Oh, I understand !
Sort the technical possibilities so that you go quicker to the point and improve knowledge and technique. Efficiency research ?
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| Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
That is a lens I would love to add to my collection. You should keep it, Rolf.
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Hari
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Hari wrote:
It's a great lens - I have limited knowledge about the different versions though [I usually get higher than 3xxxxxx]
It's interesting how you decided to convert the R-lenses to Nikon mount ... I thought it would be easier to throw an adapter on the EOS and use it without performing the surgery to change the mount for every R-lens you have
I had converted most of my R-glass to the F mount but now I have a 5D and I find it so much easier to use M42/R-lenses
But hey - the world's a big place and what's a rainbow without different colors, eh? 
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peterqd wrote:
Would it be the same lens as the Minolta MD 35-70? I tried one of those in Paris and it seemed very good indeed. The asking price was a bit steep in that shop, but I'm still thinking of getting one.
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Rolf
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Rolf wrote:
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It's a great lens - I have limited knowledge about the different versions though [I usually get higher than 3xxxxxx]
It's interesting how you decided to convert the R-lenses to Nikon mount ... I thought it would be easier to throw an adapter on the EOS and use it without performing the surgery to change the mount for every R-lens you have
I had converted most of my R-glass to the F mount but now I have a 5D and I find it so much easier to use M42/R-lenses
But hey - the world's a big place and what's a rainbow without different colors, eh? |
Yes, of course is it easier to throw an adapter on the EOS and that is it. But personally I believe that the Leica lenses do a better job with the Nikon D700 and it is easier for focusing.
I bought a lot of new mounts in China without any problem and for the conversion I need 5 minutes - and all are reversible within 5 minutes.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
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| Would it be the same lens as the Minolta MD 35-70? I tried one of those in Paris and it seemed very good indeed. The asking price was a bit steep in that shop, but I'm still thinking of getting one. |
It seems so Peter. The aperture ring looks like the same.
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Rolf wrote:
Unfortunately I need this time 10 minutes because I have forgotten the ball bearing under the mount and must remove it again.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:45 am Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
Hi,
during my today morning walk a first shot with the converted lens and Nikon D700. Focal length was 70mm
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peterqd wrote:
Well, I am very impressed with this picture, especially from a zoom, Rolf. If the lens was susceptible to CA then your shot of the tree branches would have highlighted it, but I can't see very much, if any.
You've convinced me to try the Minolta version of the 35-70/constant 3.5. I'm considering this one Click here to see on Ebay, do you know if it compares to your lens in any way? Perhaps the dates will help, do you know when yours was produced? Thanks
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Rolf wrote:
Hi Peter, below is a link for you to a Leica site. Pls look for this lens (there is a pic avalable) The aperture ring looks similar, but the rest is Leica like.
http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.de/index.php/Leica_R-Vario-Objektive
The year of production : 1984
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peterqd wrote:
Thanks Rolf. It looks like yours is the 1st version, E60, built in Japan.
I'm going to take a chance on it. The date is about right - the Minolta is from 1983, and both lenses have 8 elements/7 groups. Here are some details (no. 63)
http://tinyurl.com/2d9beyp
Thanks for the help
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koji wrote:
Here is MTF and resolution chart for Minolta Zoom 35-70/3.5. Sorry large image.
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koji wrote:
My samples:
with Fuji Reala:
with EOS 5D:
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Rolf wrote:
I added from this morning 3 pics.
1. at 35mm and a little bit cropping for pano style, 2. 100 % crop at 35mm and last one 100 % crop at 70mm
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Thanks for your pics koji. Seems to be a good performer with the 5D too.
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peterqd wrote:
Thank you Koji for the samples, very impressive. The MTF charts show quite a marked fall-off at the edges, is that true in practice?
I bought the lens and it's on its way!
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Orio wrote:
It looks like a very good lens. Would like to a full size image.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:48 am Post subject: Re: Leica Vario-Elmar-R 3.5/35-70mm (1. version by Minolta) |
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tardegardo wrote:
| Rolf wrote: |
Hi,
got this lens few days ago at my dear dealer for a good price. Tried it out today with Canon 1DsMkIII and adapter to find out whether it is worth for conversion to Nikon F mount or not.
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great shots,
does this lens pair with M9 rangefinder? |
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Olivier wrote:
Hello Tardegardo.
This is a Leica-R mount so it won't fit Leica rangefinders.
https://www.apotelyt.com/photo-camera/leica-r-system
Have a nice day.
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paulhofseth wrote:
strictly speaking , it can be "fitted" with a native Leitz adapter, but can not be coupled to the rangefinder nor will it trigger the correct framelines, so it is not as useful as a native mount lens on the M-mount.
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Olivier wrote:
Thank you Paul for the precision.
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Lightshow wrote:
Great lens, doesn't get as much love from the leicaphiles because of the Minolta connection, it's one of the few zooms that I really like, that said, it does have 2 things that reduce it's usability to me, 1) it's MFD is a bit long. 2) that it isn't 28-85.
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Paulius wrote:
As an owner of Minolta macro version, I love this lens, the minus is a barrel at wide angle and pillow at long end. Not very strong however, 50 mm is clean of distortion. I find this lens on flea market three years ago for $8. |
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