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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:29 pm Post subject: Kiev-60 TTL |
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peterqd wrote:
Does anyone have any comments or advice for me about this Russian equivalent of the Pentacon Six. With the problems of overlapping and quite high prices of the Pentacon, I am wondering if this might be a better choice. I was looking at this nice example, hopefully it might be relisted Click here to see on Ebay |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
More worst ... _________________ -------------------------------
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Attila wrote: |
More worst ... |
Worse? Is it a heap of junk then? |
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Attila
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Kiev-60 is low quality copy of Pentacon Six overall build quality is worst than P6 you have more chance to get error than with P6. _________________ -------------------------------
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bob955i
Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 2495
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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bob955i wrote:
You can buy flocking kits to fit inside the Kiev 60 body to cut down reflections.
The fact that these kits exist and that you may have to fit them,
may say something....
Unfortunately decent and reliable medium format SLRs don't come cheap. |
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:09 am Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Straight advice as always! Thanks guys |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:12 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Anyway Pentacon-sixes (?) don't come much expensive either usually - I got my second one for 40 or 50 Euros if I remember correctly.
OK they are no Mamyia nor Contax nor Pentax... but are not total junk either.
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rick_oleson
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 386 Location: Lexington Kentucky USA
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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rick_oleson wrote:
I think the best way to avoid the frame spacing problems of the Pentacon Six is to look for a Praktisix. The Praktisix had a simpler film counter system, which may not give perfectly equal spacing of the frames but is not subject to the system failures that sometimes occur in the later model. I think the main reason they changed the system was to make the camera work with 220 film; if you only use 120, I like the Praktisix better. _________________ I don't know what I want to be when I grow up |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
rick_oleson wrote: |
I think the best way to avoid the frame spacing problems of the Pentacon Six is to look for a Praktisix. The Praktisix had a simpler film counter system, which may not give perfectly equal spacing of the frames but is not subject to the system failures that sometimes occur in the later model. I think the main reason they changed the system was to make the camera work with 220 film; if you only use 120, I like the Praktisix better. |
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montecarlo
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 1865 Location: Romania
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:03 am Post subject: |
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montecarlo wrote:
There is the Exakta 66 which has, I think, the same mount as P6/Kiev60.
http://406club.dyndns.org/cam/exakta66a.jpg
http://www.thing-z.com/home2/photography/data/exakta66-1.htm
http://www.galerie-photo.com/exakta.html
and a manual (PDF file)
http://66.49.230.119/pdf_files/exakta_66.pdf
Unfortunately the Arax cameras (Kiev 88 but with P6 mount as I can see) are expensive and I don't know how reliable ? http://www.araxfoto.com/cameras/ _________________ Canonet QL17 III
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Orio
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:07 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Thanks Cosmin. Any info about how reliable this camera?
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rick_oleson
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 386 Location: Lexington Kentucky USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 2:21 am Post subject: |
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rick_oleson wrote:
The Exakta 66 does have the same lens mount. However, I think it also has the same frame counter and everything else, it's basically nothing but a Pentacon Six with a stylish rubber covering and a higher price tag. _________________ I don't know what I want to be when I grow up |
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