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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Man these are nice first time out results again Shocked Orio I think your J8 is a super winner at least based off of these samples.


It seems excellent, have you seen the corner detail one?

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It will be very interesting to see the some color results.


Yap. It's going to be the next step. I started with B&W because I was afraid to be let down by a bad colour result. Now I know that in any case I will keep using it for B&W Very Happy

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How do you like shooting the Kiev?


I love it!
The rangefinder is bright and contrasty. It is better than the one of my Zeiss Super Ikonta 6x6.
I love advancing film with the wheel!! Same as in Praktica FX.
ALso loading the film is not as a headache as I first feared. Surely it's not a lighting fast operation, but it's reasonably timed.
But what I love the most, is to feel that heavy metal machinery in my hand! And the leather fitting case. No plasticky digital rangefinder will EVER give me that!! Very Happy


PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oh crap, here I go again, going to be looking for one of these! Smile


PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Katastrofo wrote:
Oh crap, here I go again, going to be looking for one of these! Smile



Laughing
Well... the positive side of this, it's going to be certainly a cheaper caprice than a Makro-Planar! Wink


PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes, indeed, much cheaper than the Makro-Planar, will look for one offered
with the Jupiter 8! Wink


PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I am cooking more samples right now, I'm very pleased of them.


PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio, paste 'em up, when you scan them! Thanks.

Bill


PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
5


6


PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
7 (focused near, wide open)


8 (focused far, wide open)


9 (focused near, stopped down)


PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
detail a from 7


detail b from 7


detail from 8


detail a from 9


detail b from 9


PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
10 a corner of my father's house


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
that's all folks... for now Smile


PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila if you want these for your site you can take them all... you will have a nice mix of small images and full crops.
I will take a pic of the lens also.


PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
5-9 the uncropped ones, have little to no discernible grain! Shocked Are
you using just the OEM software?

Bill


PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Katastrofo wrote:
5-9 the uncropped ones, have little to no discernible grain! Shocked Are
you using just the OEM software?
Bill


I am just using the Epson interface. No ice, no grain reduction, no Ninja Noise... no nothing.
Agfa 100 is a good film. The tones are natural and the grain is not intrusive.

What is the OEM software?


PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) this being just the Epson Twain
driver software. Interesting, your scanning workflow...

If you knew what OEM means, sorry for being pedantic.

Bill


PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Katastrofo wrote:
Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) this being just the Epson Twain
driver software. Interesting, your scanning workflow...


Well, I really have no workflow of my own... as always, I try to keep the software intervention to a minimum - the minimum necessary to bring the image home. You know that's my philosophy Wink
So I just cut all bells and whistles (Ice, grain reduction, heavy curves etc) and I only set the white and black points and the minimum necessary sharpness.
I don't think it could be simpler than that Rolling Eyes

Katastrofo wrote:
If you knew what OEM means, sorry for being pedantic.
Bill


No, I didn't know that, thanks for the explanation Smile


PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well, I'm gonna try your method on my next scans, see what shakes.

Bill


PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Katastrofo wrote:
Well, I'm gonna try your method on my next scans, see what shakes.
Bill


The only suggestion that I feel like giving is, when you are in the level window, to adjust the black and white points, leave the central gamma control alone. For me, it does only bad to my scanned images.


PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Good to remember about the gamma control. I wonder how this does when
scanning color negs.


PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
superb results, nice to see some real b&w


PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Gorgeous scanning, and of course the photos themselves have the TONE


PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well, Orio, you convinced me the Kiev 4 is a worthwhile enterprise:

Click here to see on Ebay


PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Great deal Bill. It is identical to mine under all respects. I am sure you will love it. Isn't it a great piece of machinery? You will see how great it feels in the hands. It feels like handling a part of the submarine of Capt. Nemo or something.

Now, if you have the patience to wait while I fix my financial situation, in some months from now I will let you know what will be your next camera (since whatever camera I buy, you buy it also soon thereafter) Laughing Wink


PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio, I was hoping you would feel that it was just a coincidence that I'm
buying the same cameras! Laughing
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