Hoya HMC lenses

Vic Webber · Joined: 13 May 2022 Posts: 2 Location: lancashire

Yeah, I know, a very old topic but .......

I recently picked up a Hoya you seem to have missed from your collection.
HMC Zoom & Macro 75-205mm f4.0

Fantastic condition, and fantastic images. I've yet to notice any distortion or aberrations, and the colour rendition/contrast are excellent.

I use it on my Canon 7d mk2, using m42-ef adapter with 'focus confirmation' chip.
Half press the shutter, and when focus hits the spot, the camera beeps & flashes the af point (upto f8.0).
Macro is achieved with a lockable helicoid ring which moves the lens body away from the mount giving from 0 to 15mm extension.

Some more Hoya history :
At one time Hoya owned 90% of Pentax before Pentax were taken over by Ricoh. When Ricoh took over, the guy who designed Hoya lenses resigned. He now works for Nikon.

eggplant · Joined: 27 May 2020 Posts: 517

Curious where you got that information on the Hoya lens designer...

Your lens could very well be a Tokina rebrand.

iangreenhalgh1 · Expire: 2014-01-07

Hoya never had any lens designers, Hoya lenses were, apart from two or three zooms made by Ozone, rebadged Tokinas.

Vic Webber · Joined: 13 May 2022 Posts: 2 Location: lancashire

I can't find the Designer reference now, it was on wikipaedia or camerapaedia or some other such site.

Don't think this was a re-brand, as Tokina didn't sell this focal range - 70-210 yes, but not 75-205.
Also Tokina never made a lens with the variable Macro feature on the Hoya. The Hoya has the look/feel/quality of a Tokina so they may have manufactured it under Hoya specs.

Pic 1: Standard Tele.
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Pic 2: Tele-Macro.
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casualcollector · Posted: Fri May 27, 2022 3:59 pm Post subject:

Focal lengths and aperture designations have a tolerance. This lens could have been an exaggerated 80-200 or a conservative 70-210.

Alsatian2017 · Joined: 05 Mar 2018 Posts: 243

As far as i could gather from the description of the Hoya lens line in the French "Photo Magazine" lens test special of 1982, the Hoya line was not exclusively made by Tokina even though most of the Hoyas (24, 28, 35 and 135 mm f/2.8, 200 mm f/3.5, 300 and 400 mm f/5.6, 80-200 mm f/4) were Tokina lenses with slight cosmetical changes. Earlier lenses were supplied by Goyo Optical (Sun), later zoom lenses by another company (somebody mentionned Ozone, but the editors of Photo Magazine didn't know which one..). The 35-75 mm f/4 and the 75-205 mm f/4, very well received by the testers of the magazine (according to them, some of the best third party zooms back then..) apparently didn't have any Tokina origins.

iangreenhalgh1 · Expire: 2014-01-07

That lens is 100% a Tokina.

Hoya owned Tokina, Hoya lenses were rebadged Tokinas apart from a handful - two or three of the later zooms which were made by Ozone.

Online somewhere you can find a chart that lists all the Hoya lenses and who made them.

Alun Thomas · Joined: 20 Aug 2018 Posts: 661 Location: New Zealand

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They also sold a rebadge of Sun Opticals' 24-40mm F/3.5 lens, slightly changing the stated focal range to 25-42mm, but a glance can tell you the genesis of the lens. It wasn't just a name ring change though, they have altered the focus and zoom ring look to match the rest of the Hoya range. You can also see the YS mount on this copy. This copy is not my own, it's for sale here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/283643780265?hash=item420a7c9ca9:g:cpcAAOSwSA5dpVh-

Alsatian2017 · Joined: 05 Mar 2018 Posts: 243

OPAL · Joined: 11 Dec 2012 Posts: 354

HOYA company, is to my information an large optical glass manufacturer, and does not make lenses! But the glass in various japanese lenses, have very well HOYA optical glass in it!

iangreenhalgh1 · Expire: 2014-01-07

Yes, Hoya is the parent company that owns Tokina, Hoya owns some other well known companies too as they are a large corporation.

D1N0 · Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2536

They even owned Pentax for a while (Still do. They just sold the imaging division to Ricoh after they failed to develop anything significant and kept Pentax Medical)

guardian · Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 1746

iangreenhalgh1 · Expire: 2014-01-07

A friend just gave me a zoom lens she found in the attic - it's a Hoya 4/80-200, It's definitely a Tokina, a lens I have owned before in both Hoya & Tokina variants.

D1N0 · Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2536

Found this on ebay. Definitely looks Tokina but cannot find an equivalent in Tokina branding. So Tokina made some Hoya branded stuff they didn't sell as Tokina or Hoya ordered it to look like one. Most other off brand 28-50 lenses have a seperate zoom and focus ring, so it is not a Sun or something like that. CFD is pretty lame though. These lenses really need a close focussing/macro function to make them interesting.

All my Tokina K-mounts have a three screw mount ring, this one has a four screw one and that quaint bearing ring aperture lever. So that would point to a different manufacturer.

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eggplant · Joined: 27 May 2020 Posts: 517

The Hoya-branded 80-200mm f5.5 also has similarly distinct focal length markings, which is a clue.

(pics from live eBay listings)

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