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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GrahamNR17 wrote:
Ian, you're a star Cool

Since I discovered my old Tamron 80-210 was buggered at 80mm and infinity, I was able to replace it with a fairly small Hoya 70-150 for less than ten quid. A few quick test frames at lunchtime today suggests it is very sharp. I shall take it out for proper testing tomorrow.

But thanks for the heads-up Very Happy

Graham


Graham

If you want a newer Tamron 103A, I believe I have a spare at home somewhere which I can send you for the cost of postage Smile

Cheers

G


PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ManualFocus-G wrote:


Graham

If you want a newer Tamron 103A, I believe I have a spare at home somewhere which I can send you for the cost of postage Smile

Cheers

G

Shocked I can't allow you to give away a fabulous lens Shocked I have some stuff on ebay ending this weekend, so how about I buy it from you for a fair price instead? Otherwise I shall end up with a lot of favours owed with only small chances of repaying kindness Embarassed I have to say that although the Hoya is really sharp, I could really use the extra 60mm focal length.

Cheers, and thankyou for your fabulous offer!
Graham2


PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Cheers Orio, it's a cracking lens, this Hoya 2.8/28, I strongly suspect it's the same lens as the Tokina 2.8/28 as the image it produces look so similar and the lenses themselves look fairly similar too.



+1 (having both lenses in front of me i can compare and confirm, RMC Tokina that is)


PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I'm sure most of the Hoya lenses are Tokinas, certainly the primes are, if you compare them, the 24, 28, 135, 200, 300 and 400 are all definitely Tokinas. Whether all the zooms are Tokinas I cannot say.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here to you:
http://www.hi-ho.ne.jp/sbko-hq/OTHERS/HOYA_HMC_LENS.html

More here, but you have stroll down to the relevant "Hoya" pages:
http://www.hi-ho.ne.jp/sbko-hq/OTHERS/


PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stingOM wrote:
Here to you:
http://www.hi-ho.ne.jp/sbko-hq/OTHERS/HOYA_HMC_LENS.html

More here, but you have stroll down to the relevant "Hoya" pages:
http://www.hi-ho.ne.jp/sbko-hq/OTHERS/


I don't have Asian fonts installed thus only assuming TK means Tokina in that list. What would be "SOZ", "SK" and those near 35-75mm f:4 and 80-200mm f:5.5?


PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

google translation of the list of the HoyaHMC lenses
#1



SOZ - Chino Optical (Super Ozekku)


Last edited by WolverineX on Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:32 am; edited 2 times in total


PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pancolart wrote:
stingOM wrote:
Here to you:
http://www.hi-ho.ne.jp/sbko-hq/OTHERS/HOYA_HMC_LENS.html

More here, but you have stroll down to the relevant "Hoya" pages:
http://www.hi-ho.ne.jp/sbko-hq/OTHERS/


I don't have Asian fonts installed thus only assuming TK means Tokina in that list. What would be "SOZ", "SK" and those near 35-75mm f:4 and 80-200mm f:5.5?


Try Google Chromium open source. The program will auto translate any webpages for you!
http://build.chromium.org/f/chromium/snapshots/Win_Webkit_Latest/5979/mini_installer.exe

(http://build.chromium.org/f/chromium/snapshots/Win_Webkit_Latest/)


PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I forget where I read the article that said Hoya supply all the glass to Tokina, sorry.

I did find this info on the 2.8/28:



And my use of that lens confirms that review - it's a very good lens, not outstanding but for the price, a real performer.







Nice shoooting !


PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just picked up a 80-200mm hoya zoom in konica mount as parr of a autoreflex lot i boughtor 40usd to get the 40mm f1.8 hexanon. This lens was an extra telephoto that he didnt describe but i gambled on it since the bin price was what i was willing to pay just for the 40mm. Havent had a chance to try it yet but will post results when i do. To the op, how do you like yours?


PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've sold all my Hoya lenses, I needed the cash and just never used them apart from the 28mm.

I am interested to see your results from the 80-200, if it's the same as the Tokina 80-200 then it will be very sharp and good in other aspects.


PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haven't had a chance to do any real shots (been playing with a 300mm tamron instead) with this lens yet but here are some pictures for identification.

front

hoya_80-200mm front view by ramcewan, on Flickr

rear

hoya_80-200mm mount view by ramcewan, on Flickr


PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a Tokina, I had it in Nikon mount and it was very sharp.


PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My PK version was great wide-open already too. It's kind of sad you sold all your Hoyas Ian.


PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just didn't need them, nice to have as a collection but I don't have the storage space or wealth to be a collector, sadly. I still have the 24mm and 400mm, just not got round to selling those two yet.


PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay well today I set up the tripod and the 80-200mm to take shots of hopefully some birds at the feeder but none came so I ran a few shots fixed focus on the feeder - light was low so anything beyond f5.6 was too dim at 1/200 at 200mm on tripod

f4



f5.6



compare of this lens and a modern panasonic lumix 45-200mm micro four thirds lens both at 5.6


PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

grey skies but a female downy wood pecker came in for a visit anyways - f5.6, hand held, ISO 500, 1/100 ... IBIS off


female woodpecker 20120317 by ramcewan, on Flickr


PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a good lens to me, I much prefer it's rendering to the Lumix zoom.

Kudos for having the patience to wait for a bird!


PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iangreenhalgh1,

thanks! Yeah it is a keeper for me. I also agree that it gives a nicer render than the Lumix zoom. Amazing that this extra lens in a $40 lot is as good as the $230 Lumix...


PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 11:51 pm    Post subject: open old topic Reply with quote

Cool ok im opening up this old topic, as Ive found myself collecting some of these m42 mount lenses, what effectively happened in my case was I firstly collected together some canon ef ef-s lenses to cover a decent focal range, and not being rich or anything I ended up looking for some lenses I could have fun with that didn't cost silly money, by that I mean im not making a living from photography, so , for me its a hobby and my lens choice reflects that stand point, also, without having a lot of capital to start with, my choice is based on fun/pound or bang for the buck principely.

If I was an aspiring young photographer with little money I would probably make similar decisions too, at least until I could recoup, some of my expenses.

I came across m42 mount lenses by chance really, while looking for some prime lenses to extend my collection, from a basic ef ef-s collection, for me personally, ive found it fun hunting down and reading about these old lenses, while learning a bit as well.

Im fairly new to photography, relatively and don't always get a chance to get out and snap stuff, also, the older lenses make you work a bit harder for your pics and think about things a bit more, so they are good learning lenses, as well as being good value for money, along with this theory ive been collecting and still actively gathering some m42 lenses.

Currently I have a hoya 28mm f/2.8 in m42 and a hoya 35-105 f/3.5 m42 lens, I am awaiting delivery of a hoya 135mm f/2.8 m42, which I think is at the sorting office as im typing, using an m42 to eos adaptor on them obviously.

I bought a cheap m42 to eos adaptor only to find the auto focus piece was glued on and fell off, luckily not inside the camera, so im using fully manual on these and kinda decided to stick with this as its not really that hard to do, plus there`s no risk of parts falling inside the camera.

I currently have a 450d and 500d camera, which im using with these.

I have found these hoya m42 lenses to be of a solid build, with relatively good results for the cost, which effectively is extremely cheap compared to alternative lenses, my goal is to build up a good collection of these lenses.

The 28mm f/2.8 is effectively almost a standard 50mm lens on my cameras, with approx. 44mm equivalent focal length, while it may not be totally ideal, its good enough for me, good points are manual focus and in some respects aperture, with no auto focus its a good learning lens, I have canon lenses if I wanted the camera to do it all for me and its a good way to learn about actually taking pictures.

This lens was my inspiration for getting other hoya lenses, as its well built, easy to use and basically I like it, on top of the increased aperture compared to my basic canon lenses.

We aren't all made of money and I want to have fun taking pictures without getting evicted due to buying lenses, for my hobby Wink

The 35-105mm f/3.5 I acquired not long ago, and I haven't really had a chance to test it out, its quite solidly built and a nice looking lens, its almost mint, came in its own box, complete with its original bag marked hoya, the focal length ring is a bit stiff, well, it was ive sat there for hours loosening it up and it has loosened up a bit as well, this is one with 4 rings on, one being a macro ring ive seen this version and also a version with what looks like 3 setting rings (ie focus magnification aperture) (macro being the fourth ring)

The hoya 135m f/2.8 im collecting probably tomorrow.

I also have a helios 44m 58mm f/2.00 which was bought for the same reasons, and am bidding on a fujinon 55mm f/1.8 (as an alternative) for the same reasons.

For now this will surfice I think in m42, until ive tested a bit more.

Ultimately I`ll probably collect a few more hoya lenses in m42 as I go along.

That's the 35-105mm f/3.5 below the 28mm is shown earlier in this post



PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a growing respect for Hoya lenses, people here on the forum that have them seem to rate them quite highly, maybe not the very best - but still very good. I've never seen this 35-70 Hoya before, but I would buy one if I saw one because the chances are - it's a good lens.


PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest that's what I figured, I read what bits I could find about them, which isn't a lot, but, they can be had relatively cheaply on ebay, compared to other lenses and seem to be very well built, judging by the ones Ive come across.


PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

phild wrote:
To be honest that's what I figured, I read what bits I could find about them, which isn't a lot, but, they can be had relatively cheaply on ebay, compared to other lenses and seem to be very well built, judging by the ones Ive come across.


Likely not much longer, regrettably. It appears word is getting out.

Here where I live (USA) Hoya lenses do not come up for sale all that often. I try to watch for them but usually am left wanting. I like all the Hoya lenses, but my absolute favorite is their short zoom. It is quite similar to the fine Sun lens, but it is even more nicely made. I'm by necessity a mount-centric lens collector, but I waived that consideration when I bought this short zoom owing to my love for the underlying lens and to the very low price for (what turned out to be) a new Hoya lens:

Click here to see on Ebay

No regrets. It's a beautiful lens. Smile


PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

guardian wrote:
phild wrote:
To be honest that's what I figured, I read what bits I could find about them, which isn't a lot, but, they can be had relatively cheaply on ebay, compared to other lenses and seem to be very well built, judging by the ones Ive come across.


Likely not much longer, regrettably. It appears word is getting out.

Here where I live (USA) Hoya lenses do not come up for sale all that often. I try to watch for them but usually am left wanting. I like all the Hoya lenses, but my absolute favorite is their short zoom. It is quite similar to the fine Sun lens, but it is even more nicely made. I'm by necessity a mount-centric lens collector, but I waived that consideration when I bought this short zoom owing to my love for the underlying lens and to the very low price for (what turned out to be) a new Hoya lens:

Click here to see on Ebay

No regrets. It's a beautiful lens. Smile

Could it be a variant of Tokina 25-50mm?


PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pancolart wrote:
guardian wrote:
phild wrote:
To be honest that's what I figured, I read what bits I could find about them, which isn't a lot, but, they can be had relatively cheaply on ebay, compared to other lenses and seem to be very well built, judging by the ones Ive come across.


Likely not much longer, regrettably. It appears word is getting out.

Here where I live (USA) Hoya lenses do not come up for sale all that often. I try to watch for them but usually am left wanting. I like all the Hoya lenses, but my absolute favorite is their short zoom. It is quite similar to the fine Sun lens, but it is even more nicely made. I'm by necessity a mount-centric lens collector, but I waived that consideration when I bought this short zoom owing to my love for the underlying lens and to the very low price for (what turned out to be) a new Hoya lens:

Click here to see on Ebay

No regrets. It's a beautiful lens. Smile

Could it be a variant of Tokina 25-50mm?


I really dunno.

Only thing I can say is lens is very, very similar to the beautiful Sun short zoom . . . only nicer!