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dakoo
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:29 am Post subject: How were the term Levels & Curves made ? |
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dakoo wrote:
Does any one know of this ?
I am trying to find a hindi/marathi (languages in India) word for it.
Does anyone know of it. _________________ Yashica ML 2.4/24, ML 2.4./28,
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:06 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Level comes from the Latin word Libellus = small book.
The reason is because it has originally a legal meaning. The Libellus was the contract for which a good was rent to other people for they could make a profit. Example, renting a field so that you can make a crop. So the contract was made to make the profits equal and was recorded on a small book (Libellus)
Curve comes from Latin verb curvare = to bend. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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dakoo
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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dakoo wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Level comes from the Latin word Libellus = small book.
The reason is because it has originally a legal meaning. The Libellus was the contract for which a good was rent to other people for they could make a profit. Example, renting a field so that you can make a crop. So the contract was made to make the profits equal and was recorded on a small book (Libellus)
Curve comes from Latin verb curvare = to bend. |
Thanks Orio, but i wanted to know about how they got into photography.
Is Curves Photoshop's term ? or were it used in FILM photography ?
So also with Levels ? _________________ Yashica ML 2.4/24, ML 2.4./28,
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sichko
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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sichko wrote:
I'm not sure when or how the terms were originally used in photography. However here's a guess.
Level can mean the height of something. So if we have a multi-story building the different floors are at different heights relative to some reference - we say they are at different levels. If we look at the histogram on the back of our camera, or in photoshop or some other program, we see a series of 256 lines, numbered 0-255. The height of each line is proportional to the number of pixels with a particuar intensity. So if the line at the extreme left is extremely high we have a lot of black pixels, and so on. We could talk about the relative heights of the different lines. Instead we use the word levels. I don't know why - and remember it's just a guess.
Curves. I don't use Photoshop but in the program I use there is a picture of the histogram with 3 sliders at the bottom. There is also a black line running from the bottom left corner to the top-right. If I move the slider at the left (black point) and/or the slider at the right (white point) the line moves but it stays straight. If I move the slider in the middle it becomes curved. Coincidence ? _________________ John |
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Nesster
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
Curves is associated with the film "characteristic curve" - exposure/density, spectral response. _________________ -Jussi
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Hey Sichko, sounds like you and I use the same image processing software -- Paint Shop Pro. I'm using X2 after using v8 for years, and find I don't need Photoshop at all.
I have always assumed that "Curves" refers to the ability to manipulate the histogram, which is a curve (mathematically speaking, more or less) when the colors are combined or a set of three curves when they are not.
As for "Levels," I think more in terms of 'limits', since one is truncating the ends of the curve and adjusting the mid-point.
From a pragmatic point of view, however, I don't find much difference between the two functions -- at least in PSPX2 -- and usually use the Curves function. However, if I am having some difficulties with an image, I'll give Levels a try too to see if I fare any better. _________________ Michael
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
I think OP wants someone with Hindi version of Photoshop to tell him what Adobe says is Hindi for levels & curves functions. Or perhaps at local camera shop someone uses Photoshop can say what they call functions. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
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dakoo
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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dakoo wrote:
siriusdogstar wrote: |
I think OP wants someone with Hindi version of Photoshop to tell him what Adobe says is Hindi for levels & curves functions. Or perhaps at local camera shop someone uses Photoshop can say what they call functions. |
unfortunately no Hindi version of photoshop. _________________ Yashica ML 2.4/24, ML 2.4./28,
Zeiss Distagon 35/1.4, Planer 1.4/50, Planer 1.7/50,
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dakoo
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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dakoo wrote:
siriusdogstar wrote: |
I think OP wants someone with Hindi version of Photoshop to tell him what Adobe says is Hindi for levels & curves functions. Or perhaps at local camera shop someone uses Photoshop can say what they call functions. |
unfortunately no Hindi version of photoshop. _________________ Yashica ML 2.4/24, ML 2.4./28,
Zeiss Distagon 35/1.4, Planer 1.4/50, Planer 1.7/50,
SMC Tak 1.4/50,Tessar 2.8/50, Jupiter2/85
CZJ 4/135; Pentacon 4/200
Canon Tns 24/3.5
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