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Nordentro
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Looks good to me, it doesn't really need to be any sharper IMO.
Thx for sharing _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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Misha_M
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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Misha_M wrote:
great shots! _________________ Tair 11 133 f/2.8 1958
Jupiter 9 85 f/2 1959
Helios 44M 58 f/2 1978
Helios 44-2 58 f/2 1977
Helios 44 (13 blades) 1959
Helios 77M4 50 f/1.8
Zenitar-M 50 f/1.7 1986
Industar-61 L\Z 50 f/2.8
Helios 40-2, 85 f/1.5 1974 |
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mayapop
Joined: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 21
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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mayapop wrote:
Great, good lens
could you tell me, The aperture is 2 when you Photography ... ![Razz](images/smiles/icon_razz.gif) |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
These lens performances have a lot more to do with the condition of the single copies than with a difference in the production.
As far as I know, the lens has stayed the same design.
So the reason why one finds the 44-3 sharper, another finds the 44-7 sharper, another finds the 44-2 sharper... it's simply
because of the condition of their particular copy of the lens. Not because 3 is sharper than 7 or 4 is sharper than 2 etc... _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Aanything
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Aanything wrote:
Orio wrote: |
These lens performances have a lot more to do with the condition of the single copies than with a difference in the production.
As far as I know, the lens has stayed the same design.
So the reason why one finds the 44-3 sharper, another finds the 44-7 sharper, another finds the 44-2 sharper... it's simply
because of the condition of their particular copy of the lens. Not because 3 is sharper than 7 or 4 is sharper than 2 etc... |
That's exactly what I experienced: i had many copy of many versions of helios 44: the sharpest of all is a 44-2 I got at a flea market in berlin, while the only 44m7 i've had was really worse than that under most aspects (just a little more flare resistant): I kept only the best performing, and now I have a 44-2, 44m, and a 44m4 . _________________ C&C and editing of my pics are always welcome
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Smoli4
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Smoli4 wrote:
Orio wrote: |
These lens performances have a lot more to do with the condition of the single copies than with a difference in the production.
As far as I know, the lens has stayed the same design.
So the reason why one finds the 44-3 sharper, another finds the 44-7 sharper, another finds the 44-2 sharper... it's simply
because of the condition of their particular copy of the lens. Not because 3 is sharper than 7 or 4 is sharper than 2 etc... |
+1 this was my conclusion also! totally agree.
Sample variance can be measured when the two lenses are in the same exact condition (lets say "mint") and there you can find (maybe) the difference when looking at 200% crops or what not, and even then the difference in sharpness or whatever, is So Small that it doesnt matter.
lets just say i have x4 copies of helios 44-3. and the three that are mint condition perform better then the beaten one. and funny but non-MC version is sharper then all others (when you look at 400% crops LOL.) so really it doesnt matter. oh and most 44-2 perform exactly as a 44-3...
oh and i had x2 copies of MC 44m-7, same happend here, the mint copy was sharper then the well used one. but just by how much you can ask? well only enough to notice when comparing (once again) non realistic crop's and looking at center sharpness etc.. this whole thing is really silly tbh.
its really an old rumor about these russion made lenses, that they have great copy variance etc... in real life even when you test them it doesnt matter. the problem is with people who buy a beaten\well used\tempered with copy of helios lens for 5$ then test it and say its crap, and there are 10 others that agree. _________________ Canon 6D + Mir 24, SMC Tak 50 f1.4, 135 f2.5 V2, Tamron SP 90mm f2.5 52B, mcMTO 500 8, Canon IS USM 75-300 4.5-5.6, zeiss ikon talon 85 f2.8 |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I agree, out of over 20 Russian lenses I've not had a less than good one yet.
I haven't had a beaten up one, all have been at least good condition and all have been at least good performers. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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skida
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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skida wrote:
I have been really happy with each of the five Helios lenses I have owned. Very nice sharpness and colour rendition from them. Your shots are great and show the lens' qualities perfectly. |
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