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Fujinon 35mm f1.9 M42 EBC Fujinon Fujica M42
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:59 pm    Post subject: Fujinon 35mm f1.9 M42 EBC Fujinon Fujica M42 Reply with quote

Straight convert from raw to jpeg, no processing SONY NEX-3

Processed images are here

Stopped down to F8

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks very good!


PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orio wrote:
Looks very good!


+1

I've been trying to get one for about a year, I really wanted it, but it seems a bit uncommon, since i found none available.
I ended up buying an ebc fujinon 2.8/35, which is a good lens, and too many other 35's, but if I found one I think I could make some room in my collection.

What a nice weather you're having there!

EDIT
How did you get it adapted to your nex? do you have a special adapter, or did you grind one?


PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aanything wrote:
Orio wrote:
Looks very good!


+1

I've been trying to get one for about a year, I really wanted it, but it seems a bit uncommon, since i found none available.
I ended up buying an ebc fujinon 2.8/35, which is a good lens, and too many other 35's, but if I found one I think I could make some room in my collection.

What a nice weather you're having there!

EDIT
How did you get it adapted to your nex? do you have a special adapter, or did you grind one?


Thanks! My adapter past infinity a bit, so Fuji stick did fit into to reach infinity.
Lens is extremely rare, first one what I seen , friend of mine property, it will going to sale soon.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the original case for this lens somewhere.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hoanpham wrote:
I have the original case for this lens somewhere.


Thanks! Luckily I have it too, don't need at this time and next one I think never show up Sad


PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with Orio, looks good


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome. No need for post-processing whatsoever.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pancolart wrote:
Awesome. No need for post-processing whatsoever.


Yes, only best lenses not require it, this is surely one of the best lens.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice images.

I never see one 1,9/35 fujinon in the real word. I only read about it.

Thanks Attila.

You didn't use PP, but what were the setting of your Nex? If you want to tell us. Twisted Evil

Very Happy


PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sonyrokkor wrote:
Very nice images.

I never see one 1,9/35 fujinon in the real word. I only read about it.

Thanks Attila.

You didn't use PP, but what were the setting of your Nex? If you want to tell us. Twisted Evil

Very Happy

Laughing good point vivid colors


PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Limited technical information of the lens:

http://www.pentax-manuals.com/fujica/fujica.htm


PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have access to both the X and M42 mount versions. Might do a comparison (APS-C) if someone is interested.

What M42 adapter is recommend for the Sony NEX?


PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice series attila. i particularly like 17 and 7. as for the lens, i had one as well and really did not think it was 'special' in any way to justify its reputation and price. i found it 'flat', not great color and pretty soft until you really stopped it down. for much less money i think the mir 35/2 is eons better.
tony


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also perfect cooperation between NEX Vivid setting and lens properties. Try Pentax SMC & Vivid on sunny day and it will overburn contrast and colors Smile.


PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't use vivid color. Yes, use + sharpness and contrast, but the color rendering is the soul of the lens, for me.


PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shot with same lens on different cameras and you will see how effect, sharpness, colors by camera image process engine. Camera is more factor than lens itself.


PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila wrote:
Shot with same lens on different cameras and you will see how effect, sharpness, colors by camera image process engine. Camera is more factor than lens itself.


Yes, I agree.

But I like to think that lenses are still important in the image process, aren't they?


PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i must disagree, respectfully. yes, different digital 'engines' do yield differences in rendering. but a great lens will be a great lens on any but the crappiest cameras. assuming we are talking about competitive digi slrs, a 'sharp' lens will show sharp on each of them; a 'colorful' lens will show great color on each and high/low contrast lenses will exhibit those characteristics on each as well.

this lens is a case in point. i found it lacked sharpness and color on my old 5d and on my old ep2. i see the same issues here with a different camera. in fact even though the color is ratcheted upwith a 'vivid' setting, it still seems flat to my eye.
tony


PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

important sure, just sad to see people think low performance of lens , due lack of knowledge about PP, lazzy people and cheap camera combo. A lens surelly perform much different on latest digital cameras with better sensor than earliest one, what is make them to more less equal and not camera dependent, that is post processing. No post process same low level of knowledge than shoot wide open mostly.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that is very true! pp is a very important part of the digital process, especially if one shoots raw.
tony


PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless the glass itself has a tint I dont see how it could affect color rendition much. "Flatness" you describe is mostly lack of perceived contrast or lack of sharpening.


PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bille wrote:
Unless the glass itself has a tint I dont see how it could affect color rendition much. "Flatness" you describe is mostly lack of perceived contrast or lack of sharpening.


try some old glass without 'tint' and you will see it..


PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bille wrote:
Unless the glass itself has a tint I dont see how it could affect color rendition much. "Flatness" you describe is mostly lack of perceived contrast or lack of sharpening.


I don't know why (nor I do care, anyway), but many of my lenses do render colors differently one from another. Often difference is subtle, sometimes non existent, more evident under some particular conditions. But looking at the results obtained with the same camera and settings with my (for example) super-takumar 2/35 vs Mir 24, I clearly see differences In color rendering.
That said, I like the samples from this fujinon, and I'd love to find one I can afford.


PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went out today with a CZJ Tessar 50 on the NEX and the results were flatter and grayer than the day was, but I was surprised by how much colour / contrast must have been in the RAW image because some PP soon pulled them back into decent images. Surprisingly the Pentax K10 which uses the same sensor brings out much more colour than the NEX with this lens.