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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:34 pm Post subject: From the Hip: cv 21/4 and ricoh gxr m |
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rbelyell wrote:
ive bought and sold the cv 15/4.5, 25/4 and 35/1.4, and i'm selling the 75/2.5. but THIS lens is going to stay for a long while! i love the IQ and i love it for street work as its tiny and easily hyperfocused at f8 for 'from the hip' shooting. static scenes shot through evf. c&c welcome.
_________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
GREAT STUFF FOR SALE:
Contax T
Hasselblad XPan + 45/4, 90/4
Kodak Retina Reflex IV + full set of Schneider Krueznach lenses
Mercury 2 half frame 35mm
Kodak Pro slr/n
Fuji GM670+100/3.5+65/8!
Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
Bessa T 101 Anniversary Edition in Navy Blue
Mamiya Six Folder with Zuiko 75/3.5
Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
Cameras: Canon IX
PM for more complete descriptions/pix. All in great shape!
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sichko
Joined: 20 Jun 2008 Posts: 2475 Location: South West UK
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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sichko wrote:
They look good. _________________ John |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Nice series, and great choice of lenses! Those Voigtländers are really great value for the money!
Even after I got the Biogon 25, I am keeping the Snapshot-Skopar, because it's so tiny and unobtrusive,
yet takes images that at f/8 can really rival the Biogon for the sharpness.
I also use the wide lenses in the same way that you do for street shooting, but I use 25 or 28 mm,
the 21 is too wide for me and I always end up with lots of needless stuff at the edges, forcing me to crop.
One day I hope to get used to using the 35, but you really need care in holding the camera with a 35 because
the risk of cutting out parts of subject becomes high, especially if you like to shoot near the subjects. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
thank you both! it is a stunning lens. i am amazed at the depth and framewide clarity it has, and also very little distortion. ive always coveted the biogon 21/2.8, but outside of the extra speed, i am now unsure what it can add that im not getting with the cv at 1/3 the price.
orio: yes, you are right, it is a little wide, but it works much better on my gxr than any other wide ive used that i just deal with the cropping. there is such good resolution i feel it doesnt at all degrade the IQ. if i need to get closer i bring along my nikkor 35/2.5 which is the same tiny size and easily carried in a pocket.
tony _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
GREAT STUFF FOR SALE:
Contax T
Hasselblad XPan + 45/4, 90/4
Kodak Retina Reflex IV + full set of Schneider Krueznach lenses
Mercury 2 half frame 35mm
Kodak Pro slr/n
Fuji GM670+100/3.5+65/8!
Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
Bessa T 101 Anniversary Edition in Navy Blue
Mamiya Six Folder with Zuiko 75/3.5
Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
Cameras: Canon IX
PM for more complete descriptions/pix. All in great shape!
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'buy me a drink, sing me a song,
take me as i come 'cause i can't stay long'
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:08 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Good work, nice , crisp images ! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:07 am Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
thank you attila. i'm enjoying it. _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
GREAT STUFF FOR SALE:
Contax T
Hasselblad XPan + 45/4, 90/4
Kodak Retina Reflex IV + full set of Schneider Krueznach lenses
Mercury 2 half frame 35mm
Kodak Pro slr/n
Fuji GM670+100/3.5+65/8!
Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
Bessa T 101 Anniversary Edition in Navy Blue
Mamiya Six Folder with Zuiko 75/3.5
Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
Cameras: Canon IX
PM for more complete descriptions/pix. All in great shape!
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take me as i come 'cause i can't stay long' |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16643 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:42 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
I cannot more than agree. Great series Tony! _________________ Klaus - Admin
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http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
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Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:50 am Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
thank you klaus! _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
GREAT STUFF FOR SALE:
Contax T
Hasselblad XPan + 45/4, 90/4
Kodak Retina Reflex IV + full set of Schneider Krueznach lenses
Mercury 2 half frame 35mm
Kodak Pro slr/n
Fuji GM670+100/3.5+65/8!
Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
Bessa T 101 Anniversary Edition in Navy Blue
Mamiya Six Folder with Zuiko 75/3.5
Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
Cameras: Canon IX
PM for more complete descriptions/pix. All in great shape!
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'buy me a drink, sing me a song,
take me as i come 'cause i can't stay long' |
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hoanpham
Joined: 31 Jan 2011 Posts: 2575
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:40 am Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
great series.
the heliar 15mm is my fav too. it's so tiny and can bring anywhere... |
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Rick1779
Joined: 17 May 2013 Posts: 1207 Location: Italy
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:50 am Post subject: |
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Rick1779 wrote:
Actually I swapped my 21 with the 15mm cause the 21 wasn't wide enough
But I love and loved both lenses |
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:35 am Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
thanks guys.
hoan and rick: actually the 15 did not work for me. i personally see a big difference in resolution between the 15 and the 21. maybe i had a bad copy of the 15, but its rendering was disappointing to me.
omar: the ricoh is awesome. focusing is easy, its extremely compact and well built. it has a system of microlenses designed soecifically to work with rf lenses, so if you shoot rf and dont want to shell out the money for a leica, the ricoh is the way to go. _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
GREAT STUFF FOR SALE:
Contax T
Hasselblad XPan + 45/4, 90/4
Kodak Retina Reflex IV + full set of Schneider Krueznach lenses
Mercury 2 half frame 35mm
Kodak Pro slr/n
Fuji GM670+100/3.5+65/8!
Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
Bessa T 101 Anniversary Edition in Navy Blue
Mamiya Six Folder with Zuiko 75/3.5
Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
Cameras: Canon IX
PM for more complete descriptions/pix. All in great shape!
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'buy me a drink, sing me a song,
take me as i come 'cause i can't stay long' |
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Jesito
Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 5745 Location: Olivella, Catalonia, (Spain)
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
Tony.
Same feeling about the 15mm, I've tested two copies, looking mint both, but non puzzling results from any of them on the GXR
But in the NEX they gave much better results, don't know what may happen. Even the Samsung 16mm on the NX1000 gave much better results.
Which mount was it?. L39 with adapter or M?.
Thanks for sharing, the 21mm samples are really outstanding. And you're right with your assessment: the GXR is superb for use with RF lenses. _________________ Jesito, Moderator
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Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, 35-70, 35-80, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250.
Fixed Industar-50, , Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Pancolar 50mm, Volna-3, many Exakta lenses
DSLR SIGMA SD9 & SD14, EOS 5D, Sony A700 and NEXF3, Oly E-330, E-400, E-450, E-1
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Brilliant
SLR Minolta X300, Fuji STX II, Praktica VLC3, Pentax P30t, EXA500, EXA 1A, Spotmatic(2), Chinon CM-4S, Ricoh, Contax, Konica TC-X , Minolta 5000, 7000i, 3Sxi, EOS 500 and CX
Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3 & C4, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret (many), Welta Welti-I, Kodak Signette 35, Zorki-4, Bessa-R & L, Minolta Weathermatic, olympus XA2
Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Canon Prima Super 105, Olympus XA2 and XA3
Compact Digital Olympus C-5050, Aiptek Slim 3000, Canon Powershot A540, Nikon 5200, SIGMA DP1s, Polaroid X530, IXUS55, Kodak 6490, Powershot G9 and G10
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
thanks jes. i had the 15 in ltm mount. ive read that the 15 and 25 protrude too much for proper rendering with some cameras. for example the 25 was great on my old ep2, but mediocre on my gxr. ive seen shots from the 15 on an rd1 that look far better than what i was getting on my gxr. go figure!
tony _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
GREAT STUFF FOR SALE:
Contax T
Hasselblad XPan + 45/4, 90/4
Kodak Retina Reflex IV + full set of Schneider Krueznach lenses
Mercury 2 half frame 35mm
Kodak Pro slr/n
Fuji GM670+100/3.5+65/8!
Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
Bessa T 101 Anniversary Edition in Navy Blue
Mamiya Six Folder with Zuiko 75/3.5
Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
Cameras: Canon IX
PM for more complete descriptions/pix. All in great shape!
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'buy me a drink, sing me a song,
take me as i come 'cause i can't stay long' |
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4569 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
very convincing samples with the CV21, nice series Tony, you are tempting me much to look out for this lens.
However I have been puzzled that you have not liked your CV 4.5/15, 4/25 and 1.4/35, more so now because Jesito also says he didn't like the CV15 on the GXR M. I have been very happy with both the CV15 and 25 on the GXR M, specially the CV15 is much better on the GXR M than on the NEX5N, have no experience using it on Samsung and m4/3 though
excuse me for hijacking this thread, but I am really curious about what you think: this is e.g. a pic I took with the CV 15 on the GXR M this afternoon, resized and sharpened
and an unsharpened 100% crop
I find it ok for a 15mm on APS-C, but is it that I am satisfied where I should not, should I expect better?
btw. I am also curious, Orio, when you say 21mm is too wide, is this on APS-C or on FF Leica M9? _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:04 am Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
your samples look good to me. but honestly, its very hard for me to compare a web posting to what i see or saw from the lens directly. i found it lacked the clarity throughout the frame that i personally wanted and was getting from other lenses on the gxr. i am also a pixel peeper, and i wasnt happy woth what i peeped! but you should not be concerned what i or anyone else thinks, as long as youre happy and making images that please you, thats all you should want!
tony _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
GREAT STUFF FOR SALE:
Contax T
Hasselblad XPan + 45/4, 90/4
Kodak Retina Reflex IV + full set of Schneider Krueznach lenses
Mercury 2 half frame 35mm
Kodak Pro slr/n
Fuji GM670+100/3.5+65/8!
Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
Bessa T 101 Anniversary Edition in Navy Blue
Mamiya Six Folder with Zuiko 75/3.5
Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
Cameras: Canon IX
PM for more complete descriptions/pix. All in great shape!
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take me as i come 'cause i can't stay long' |
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