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piticu
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 Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:39 pm Post subject: For sale: Zeiss Distagon CFi 4/50 |
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piticu wrote:
I'm selling on behalf of a photographer friend this superb lens, never used, in box: Zeiss Distagon CFi 4/50.
He is asking 2500e plus shipping, insurance and paypal fee.
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Mal1905
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| Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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Mal1905 wrote:
There's no doubt it's a beautiful lens (I have one), but €2.5K is well over twice the going value for this lens, box or not.
If I had to let mine go tomorrow - with warranty certificate, lens bag, box and lens hood - I'd ask no more than €1100.00.
Sorry if I sound harsh, but there's a strain of distinct over-valuation of kit at the moment.
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Carl Zeiss Jena: Flektogon 2.8/20, 2.4/35, 2.8/35, Pancolar 2/50, MC 1.8/50, MC 1.8/80, Triotar 4/135, Tessar 2.8/50, S 4/135 1Q, S 3.5/135, Sonnar 3.5/135 MC, 2.8/180, Biotar 2/5,8cm, 2/58, 1.5/75
Carl Zeiss: Distagon 2/28 T*, 1.4/35 T*, Ultron 1.8/50, Tessar 2.8/50, Planar 1.4/50 T* MM, 1.7/50 T* MM, 1.4/85 T* AEG, Sonnar 2.8/135 T*
Asahi Optical Co.: Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 4.5/20, 3.5/24, 3.5/28, 2/35, 3.5/35, 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 1.8/85, 2.8/105, 2.8/120, 2.5/135 I & II, 3.5/135, 4/150, 4/200, 4/300, 5.6/400, 4/45-125, 4.5/85-210, Super-Takumar 4.5/20, 3.5/24, 3.5/28, 2/35, 3.5/35, 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 2/55, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, 4/150, 4/200, 4.5/70-150, Fish-Eye-Takumar 4/17, Macro-Takumar 4/50, Super-Macro Takumar 4/50, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-Takumar 4/50, 4/100, Bellows-Takumar 4/100, Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 3.5/50, 2.4/58, 3.5/100, Asahi-Kogaku Tele-Takumar 3.5/135, Auto-Takumar 2.3/35, 3.5/35, 1.8/55, 1.8/55 (Zebra), 2/55, 2.2/55, 1.8/85, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, Takumar 4/35, 2.2/55, 2/58, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, 3.5/200, 5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 5.6/200, 6.3/300, SMC Takumar 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 2/55, SMC-M 1.4/50, 1.7/50, 2/50
Tomioka: Tominon 2/5cm, Auto-Chinon 3.5/21, 1.4/55, Auto-Yashinon DS-M 1.2/55 |
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piticu
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| Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:57 am Post subject: |
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piticu wrote:
I'd really appreciate pointing out the over pricing, i'll let him know right away.
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Mal1905
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| Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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Mal1905 wrote:
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| I'd really appreciate pointing out the over pricing, i'll let him know right away. |
No problem - I was just being objective about the asking price.
Until last August I worked for the Hasselblad distributor here in Ireland - we were having problems selling them at their retail price back then. They only started to move when we reduced the cost considerably, and suddenly everybody wanted one!!! That's when I picked mine up - but again, I wouldn't consider paying anything more than €1100.00 for one if I needed one today.
Of course, putting it on the 'Bay might fetch him close to his asking price - it's a place of magical happenings!!!
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Carl Zeiss Jena: Flektogon 2.8/20, 2.4/35, 2.8/35, Pancolar 2/50, MC 1.8/50, MC 1.8/80, Triotar 4/135, Tessar 2.8/50, S 4/135 1Q, S 3.5/135, Sonnar 3.5/135 MC, 2.8/180, Biotar 2/5,8cm, 2/58, 1.5/75
Carl Zeiss: Distagon 2/28 T*, 1.4/35 T*, Ultron 1.8/50, Tessar 2.8/50, Planar 1.4/50 T* MM, 1.7/50 T* MM, 1.4/85 T* AEG, Sonnar 2.8/135 T*
Asahi Optical Co.: Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 4.5/20, 3.5/24, 3.5/28, 2/35, 3.5/35, 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 1.8/85, 2.8/105, 2.8/120, 2.5/135 I & II, 3.5/135, 4/150, 4/200, 4/300, 5.6/400, 4/45-125, 4.5/85-210, Super-Takumar 4.5/20, 3.5/24, 3.5/28, 2/35, 3.5/35, 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 2/55, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, 4/150, 4/200, 4.5/70-150, Fish-Eye-Takumar 4/17, Macro-Takumar 4/50, Super-Macro Takumar 4/50, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-Takumar 4/50, 4/100, Bellows-Takumar 4/100, Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 3.5/50, 2.4/58, 3.5/100, Asahi-Kogaku Tele-Takumar 3.5/135, Auto-Takumar 2.3/35, 3.5/35, 1.8/55, 1.8/55 (Zebra), 2/55, 2.2/55, 1.8/85, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, Takumar 4/35, 2.2/55, 2/58, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, 3.5/200, 5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 5.6/200, 6.3/300, SMC Takumar 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 2/55, SMC-M 1.4/50, 1.7/50, 2/50
Tomioka: Tominon 2/5cm, Auto-Chinon 3.5/21, 1.4/55, Auto-Yashinon DS-M 1.2/55 |
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piticu
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| Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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piticu wrote:
Looks like B&H sells this lens over the recommened price, at 4023$ plus shipping. So, for the same lens the buyer will pay 500$ less, only because the box is open. A quick search on ebay revealed the lowest price of 800 pounds but the lens was hardly usable.
Do you think that maybe things changed since last August?
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Mal1905
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| Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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Mal1905 wrote:
| piticu wrote: |
| Do you think that maybe things changed since last August? |
No idea to be honest - but I did call my old boss and he offered me one for €1250.00 (inclusive of VAT). So yes, a little more than I'd be prepared to pay if I wanted one, but still close to the originally quoted figure.
Unopened box too - he's got two of them, but will only sell to existing clients.
The idiot - seems like he could make more online 
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Canon EOS 5D / EOS 40D
Carl Zeiss Jena: Flektogon 2.8/20, 2.4/35, 2.8/35, Pancolar 2/50, MC 1.8/50, MC 1.8/80, Triotar 4/135, Tessar 2.8/50, S 4/135 1Q, S 3.5/135, Sonnar 3.5/135 MC, 2.8/180, Biotar 2/5,8cm, 2/58, 1.5/75
Carl Zeiss: Distagon 2/28 T*, 1.4/35 T*, Ultron 1.8/50, Tessar 2.8/50, Planar 1.4/50 T* MM, 1.7/50 T* MM, 1.4/85 T* AEG, Sonnar 2.8/135 T*
Asahi Optical Co.: Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 4.5/20, 3.5/24, 3.5/28, 2/35, 3.5/35, 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 1.8/85, 2.8/105, 2.8/120, 2.5/135 I & II, 3.5/135, 4/150, 4/200, 4/300, 5.6/400, 4/45-125, 4.5/85-210, Super-Takumar 4.5/20, 3.5/24, 3.5/28, 2/35, 3.5/35, 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 2/55, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, 4/150, 4/200, 4.5/70-150, Fish-Eye-Takumar 4/17, Macro-Takumar 4/50, Super-Macro Takumar 4/50, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-Takumar 4/50, 4/100, Bellows-Takumar 4/100, Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 3.5/50, 2.4/58, 3.5/100, Asahi-Kogaku Tele-Takumar 3.5/135, Auto-Takumar 2.3/35, 3.5/35, 1.8/55, 1.8/55 (Zebra), 2/55, 2.2/55, 1.8/85, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, Takumar 4/35, 2.2/55, 2/58, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, 3.5/200, 5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 5.6/200, 6.3/300, SMC Takumar 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 2/55, SMC-M 1.4/50, 1.7/50, 2/50
Tomioka: Tominon 2/5cm, Auto-Chinon 3.5/21, 1.4/55, Auto-Yashinon DS-M 1.2/55 |
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Laurence
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| Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
I am curious about this lens. It seems "slow" at f:4, although I know full well the widest opening does not speak for the whole lens.
Is it peaked at f:4 because of construction? Just wondering.
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Mal1905
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| Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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Mal1905 wrote:
| Laurence wrote: |
I am curious about this lens. It seems "slow" at f:4, although I know full well the widest opening does not speak for the whole lens.
Is it peaked at f:4 because of construction? Just wondering. |
It's one of several Distagons designed for the Hassie 'V' System cameras.
It's a 9 element, T* coated design and is marketed as a moderate wide-angle lens.
I've tried to access the Distributor site but my login has expired as I haven't used it in ages, so unfortunately I cannot get any more information at this stage.
Mine is with a buddy who's just bought a digi-back and has rediscovered his love/lust for all things Hasselblad, but I'll do some shooting with it when it's back and post the results.
Interestingly, Hasselblad have a Recommended Retail Price of €2980.00 for the CFi at the moment - I can only imagine what the distributors are buying them at if they can quote me €1250.00...
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Canon EOS 5D / EOS 40D
Carl Zeiss Jena: Flektogon 2.8/20, 2.4/35, 2.8/35, Pancolar 2/50, MC 1.8/50, MC 1.8/80, Triotar 4/135, Tessar 2.8/50, S 4/135 1Q, S 3.5/135, Sonnar 3.5/135 MC, 2.8/180, Biotar 2/5,8cm, 2/58, 1.5/75
Carl Zeiss: Distagon 2/28 T*, 1.4/35 T*, Ultron 1.8/50, Tessar 2.8/50, Planar 1.4/50 T* MM, 1.7/50 T* MM, 1.4/85 T* AEG, Sonnar 2.8/135 T*
Asahi Optical Co.: Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 4.5/20, 3.5/24, 3.5/28, 2/35, 3.5/35, 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 1.8/85, 2.8/105, 2.8/120, 2.5/135 I & II, 3.5/135, 4/150, 4/200, 4/300, 5.6/400, 4/45-125, 4.5/85-210, Super-Takumar 4.5/20, 3.5/24, 3.5/28, 2/35, 3.5/35, 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 2/55, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, 4/150, 4/200, 4.5/70-150, Fish-Eye-Takumar 4/17, Macro-Takumar 4/50, Super-Macro Takumar 4/50, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-Takumar 4/50, 4/100, Bellows-Takumar 4/100, Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 3.5/50, 2.4/58, 3.5/100, Asahi-Kogaku Tele-Takumar 3.5/135, Auto-Takumar 2.3/35, 3.5/35, 1.8/55, 1.8/55 (Zebra), 2/55, 2.2/55, 1.8/85, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, Takumar 4/35, 2.2/55, 2/58, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, 3.5/200, 5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 5.6/200, 6.3/300, SMC Takumar 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 2/55, SMC-M 1.4/50, 1.7/50, 2/50
Tomioka: Tominon 2/5cm, Auto-Chinon 3.5/21, 1.4/55, Auto-Yashinon DS-M 1.2/55 |
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Orio
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| Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:09 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
| Laurence wrote: |
I am curious about this lens. It seems "slow" at f:4, although I know full well the widest opening does not speak for the whole lens.
Is it peaked at f:4 because of construction? Just wondering. |
My Zeiss book sheds some light on the subject.
The early Zeiss lenses for Hasselblad were a bunch of "pioneer" lenses released in the second half of the 50s.
Amongst them there was a Distagon 5.6/50.
In the early 60s, a new model Distagon 4/50 was derived from the slower predecessor's design.
This model was also created with Rollei mount for the Rollei MF cameras.
Then in the 70s a newer Distagon 2.8/50 was created, but the old 4/50 remained in the production line, obviously with the purpose to offer an affordable (if this word has any meaning for an Hasselblad line...) alternative to the 2.8/50.
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