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darmodej
Joined: 03 Jun 2009 Posts: 284 Location: Bratislava, Slovakia
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:35 pm Post subject: Flektogon 35/2.4 MC vs. Elmarit-R 2.8/35 |
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darmodej wrote:
Hi, finaly got the Leica-R eos adapter to play with.
Here is a left edge midle 100% crop from a Canon 40D, focus cca. 50cm
Compared the Flektogon 35/2.4 MC vs. Elmarit-R 2.8/35 (2nd late series 2660000).
The result is quite bad for the flek, will try to get a second copy to test.
_________________ Jan
DSLR: Canon eos 5D mkII
COMPACTS: Minotla HI-MATIC F, Yashica 35 Electro GTN
SLR: a few Prakticas, Canon eos 5, Yashica FRI, Contax RX
Medium Format: Mockba 5, Reflex Korelle
Lenses
CZ Contax: Distagon 2.8/28, Distagon 1.4/35, Planar 1.4/50, Planar 1.4/85, Vario-Sonnar 4/80-200
CZJ m42: Flektogon 2.8/20 MC, Pancolar 50/1.8
Schneider: Tele-Xenar 3.5/135 (m42), Xenar 2.8/80 (RK)
CCCP m42 Industar-50 3.5/50, Helios 44-2 2/58, Tair-3-PhS 4.5/300
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
That looks like a Friday afternoon lens or one that has been opened by a butcher. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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darmodej
Joined: 03 Jun 2009 Posts: 284 Location: Bratislava, Slovakia
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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darmodej wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
That looks like a Friday afternoon lens or one that has been opened by a butcher. |
..indeed! do you or maybe someelso have a 100% edge crop from a fully open 2.4/35 flek at hand - so can start _________________ Jan
DSLR: Canon eos 5D mkII
COMPACTS: Minotla HI-MATIC F, Yashica 35 Electro GTN
SLR: a few Prakticas, Canon eos 5, Yashica FRI, Contax RX
Medium Format: Mockba 5, Reflex Korelle
Lenses
CZ Contax: Distagon 2.8/28, Distagon 1.4/35, Planar 1.4/50, Planar 1.4/85, Vario-Sonnar 4/80-200
CZJ m42: Flektogon 2.8/20 MC, Pancolar 50/1.8
Schneider: Tele-Xenar 3.5/135 (m42), Xenar 2.8/80 (RK)
CCCP m42 Industar-50 3.5/50, Helios 44-2 2/58, Tair-3-PhS 4.5/300
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darmodej
Joined: 03 Jun 2009 Posts: 284 Location: Bratislava, Slovakia
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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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darmodej wrote:
got a good copy now, sorry for the 'test' here is the full open pix. much better the flek. the 'gloom' fully open is much more pronouced with the flek
_________________ Jan
DSLR: Canon eos 5D mkII
COMPACTS: Minotla HI-MATIC F, Yashica 35 Electro GTN
SLR: a few Prakticas, Canon eos 5, Yashica FRI, Contax RX
Medium Format: Mockba 5, Reflex Korelle
Lenses
CZ Contax: Distagon 2.8/28, Distagon 1.4/35, Planar 1.4/50, Planar 1.4/85, Vario-Sonnar 4/80-200
CZJ m42: Flektogon 2.8/20 MC, Pancolar 50/1.8
Schneider: Tele-Xenar 3.5/135 (m42), Xenar 2.8/80 (RK)
CCCP m42 Industar-50 3.5/50, Helios 44-2 2/58, Tair-3-PhS 4.5/300
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Anu
Joined: 14 Apr 2009 Posts: 879
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:01 am Post subject: |
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Anu wrote:
I took a picture of my lcd with my primary Flek 35/2.4 and it sure looks more like the Elmarit than the Fleks you tested
Of course it is rather unscientific as I have a different monitor, different LCD and different camera, but, I'd say that this Flek you tested is maybe not a a monday copy, but perhaps a friday copy
My second Flek on the other hand is somewhere inbetween the two copies you tested, but it does have quite a few scratches in the last element - anyone got a spare element to donate/sell to me? |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
This shows the problem of this normally very fine lens.
When buying a Flek 2.4/35 you can get an excellent copy or an absolute dog!
The dispersion is enormous.
Whereas an Elmarit will most probably a very good lens (if it is in a good condition, of course!). _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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darmodej
Joined: 03 Jun 2009 Posts: 284 Location: Bratislava, Slovakia
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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darmodej wrote:
Sending the 1st (quite bad) copy to the 'best' service guy in Slovakia now, should be back in 2 weeks, lets see if it's a bad assebly issue, or screwed up piece in general. had this thing also with the Pancolar 1.8/50 MC, had 4 pieces of which all were quite different regarding sharpness and gloom fully open (all in very good shape). The best was the 'electric' version, also the better flek of the 2 tested is an 'electric' version. Didn't observe this variation in older Carl Zeiss Jena lenses - the zebra or all aluminium. _________________ Jan
DSLR: Canon eos 5D mkII
COMPACTS: Minotla HI-MATIC F, Yashica 35 Electro GTN
SLR: a few Prakticas, Canon eos 5, Yashica FRI, Contax RX
Medium Format: Mockba 5, Reflex Korelle
Lenses
CZ Contax: Distagon 2.8/28, Distagon 1.4/35, Planar 1.4/50, Planar 1.4/85, Vario-Sonnar 4/80-200
CZJ m42: Flektogon 2.8/20 MC, Pancolar 50/1.8
Schneider: Tele-Xenar 3.5/135 (m42), Xenar 2.8/80 (RK)
CCCP m42 Industar-50 3.5/50, Helios 44-2 2/58, Tair-3-PhS 4.5/300
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no-X
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 2495 Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
I think the cause of various glow on different Pancolar copies is caused by different coating. _________________ (almost) complete list of Helios lenses |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I used to have two 2.4/35 Fleks (both MC, one of them was "Aus Jena electric") and both were weak at edges wide open.
Then of course copy variation has an influence.
But I think it's safe to say that the 2.4/35 Flek is not a lens designed to be performing at the edges wide open.
Then of course it has other qualities like close up focusing capability, affordable price, very good sharpness from f/4 on. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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darmodej
Joined: 03 Jun 2009 Posts: 284 Location: Bratislava, Slovakia
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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darmodej wrote:
no-X wrote: |
I think the cause of various glow on different Pancolar copies is caused by different coating. |
..thats quite probable, makes all MC of CZJ unique (: _________________ Jan
DSLR: Canon eos 5D mkII
COMPACTS: Minotla HI-MATIC F, Yashica 35 Electro GTN
SLR: a few Prakticas, Canon eos 5, Yashica FRI, Contax RX
Medium Format: Mockba 5, Reflex Korelle
Lenses
CZ Contax: Distagon 2.8/28, Distagon 1.4/35, Planar 1.4/50, Planar 1.4/85, Vario-Sonnar 4/80-200
CZJ m42: Flektogon 2.8/20 MC, Pancolar 50/1.8
Schneider: Tele-Xenar 3.5/135 (m42), Xenar 2.8/80 (RK)
CCCP m42 Industar-50 3.5/50, Helios 44-2 2/58, Tair-3-PhS 4.5/300
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