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JohnBar
Joined: 21 Jun 2012 Posts: 581 Location: Liverpool
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:07 pm Post subject: Ferrari/Pininfarina designed lenses? |
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JohnBar wrote:
I read ages ago that some Schneider lenses were designed by Pininfarina in the 60s, I cant find the info so my question is
1 Is it true?
2 Which models? _________________ Rectilux 3FF Series single focus anamorphic attachments
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Ema90
Joined: 13 Oct 2012 Posts: 28 Location: Italy
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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:21 am Post subject: Re: Ferrari/Pininfarina designed lenses? |
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Ema90 wrote:
JohnBar wrote: |
I read ages ago that some Schneider lenses were designed by Pininfarina in the 60s, I cant find the info so my question is
1 Is it true?
2 Which models? |
What do you mean with "designed" ? The aesthetic?
Schneider kreuznach?
I thought they made only enlarging lens , medium and big format lens in the past. |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:39 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Schneider have made many lenses for 35mm, including a series for Kodak Retina, a series for Rollei QBM mount, an M42 series for Edixa, plus lenses for rf cameras like the Voss Diax. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6000 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:40 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
I have no idea if Pininfarina was involved in this lens' genesis or not, but the Edixa-Xenar is a really lovely piece of design.
Not noticeable at first glance is the dynamic depth of field scale that is represented by the red lines under the plastic cover. These two rotate in and out with the aperture setting to show depth of field for any given aperture.
......and they are Ferrari red........
Cheers
OH
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JohnBar
Joined: 21 Jun 2012 Posts: 581 Location: Liverpool
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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:12 am Post subject: |
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A shameful display of wealth in public _________________ Rectilux 3FF Series single focus anamorphic attachments
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6000 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:41 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
JohnBar wrote: |
A shameful display of wealth in public |
Isn't that what Ferraris are for .............. |
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4744 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:26 am Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
Porsche designed the Contax RTS in the 70's, a nice shape but otherwise a normal camera (except for the Zeiss lenses). And look at the state of them now with that horrible rubber composite covering.
Pinifarina shminifarina. It means nowt. _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6000 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:43 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
philslizzy wrote: |
Porsche designed the Contax RTS in the 70's, a nice shape but otherwise a normal camera (except for the Zeiss lenses). And look at the state of them now with that horrible rubber composite covering.
Pinifarina shminifarina. It means nowt. |
A curiosity none the less.
I wonder if there is any truth to it - and if so - what were the design differences.
Be interesting to find out.
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JohnBar
Joined: 21 Jun 2012 Posts: 581 Location: Liverpool
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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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JohnBar wrote:
If you take a look at the photos of Schneider lenses over at Capt Jacks place, there are some early 60s models with the red DOF window scale and zebra, which kinda evoke Formula 1 visions of checkered flags, pit stops and the pungent smell of high octane fuel. But these may not be the ones....
If I recall the article correctly, it was more to do with Schneider feeling the pinch from Japan and wanting to redesign their range to be more compact looking like their Japanese competitors and therefore the more angular/edgy compact form with the leather trim is more consistent with the design change in respect of the article.
But who really knows for sure? _________________ Rectilux 3FF Series single focus anamorphic attachments
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cambug
Joined: 06 Jun 2010 Posts: 91
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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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cambug wrote:
Years ago when Nikon first introduced their flagship F3 camera, in their brochure, it was described as designed by an Italian house. I am able to recall if it is Pinifarina or somebody else. I believe they refered only to the camera body, nothing to do with their optics. One day when you can buy the latest lenses from a boutique, it would be a designer lens... |
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DR.JUAN
Joined: 08 Feb 2013 Posts: 661
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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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DR.JUAN wrote:
Porsche designed the 35 mm camera samsung ECX-1 at the end of 80's. |
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enzodm
Joined: 11 Sep 2010 Posts: 350 Location: Italy
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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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enzodm wrote:
cambug wrote: |
Years ago when Nikon first introduced their flagship F3 camera, in their brochure, it was described as designed by an Italian house. I am able to recall if it is Pinifarina or somebody else. |
Giugiaro. _________________
Canon 60D, Tamron 17-50VC, Canon 55-250IS, Sigma 50-150/2.8 plus:
Wide: Mir 20/3.5, Kenlock 24/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Yashikor 35/2.8, Mir 37/2.8
Fifties: Voigtländer Color Ultron 50/1.8, Pentacon 50/1.8, Zenitar 50/1.9, Leica Summicron 50/2, CZJ Pancolar 50/2, CZJ Tessar 50/2.8, Industar 50/3.5 , Rikenon 55/1.4, Petri 55/1.8, Helios 58/2
In the middle: Cyclop 85/1.5, Nikon 100/2.8
135s: Tamron 135/2.5, CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5, Jupiter 135/3.5, CZJ Triotar 135/4, Tamron Twin Tele 135-225
Tele: Soligor 200/2.8, Pentax Super Takumar 200/4, Hanimex 400/6.3, Makinon 500/8
Various: Schneider-Kreuznach Componar 135/4.5, Tominon 105/4.5, Vest Pocket Kodak meniscus, Wray Supar 2"/4.5
Sony Nex 6 plus:
Industar 69 28/2.8, Fujian 35/1.7, Rokkor 50/1.4, Jupiter 50/2, Cosmicar 50/2.8, Industar-22 50/3.5, Leitz Elmar 90/4, Canon Serenar 100/4
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Mos6502
Joined: 20 Jun 2011 Posts: 960 Location: Austin
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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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Mos6502 wrote:
JohnBar wrote: |
If you take a look at the photos of Schneider lenses over at Capt Jacks place, there are some early 60s models with the red DOF window scale and zebra, which kinda evoke Formula 1 visions of checkered flags, pit stops and the pungent smell of high octane fuel. But these may not be the ones....
If I recall the article correctly, it was more to do with Schneider feeling the pinch from Japan and wanting to redesign their range to be more compact looking like their Japanese competitors and therefore the more angular/edgy compact form with the leather trim is more consistent with the design change in respect of the article.
But who really knows for sure? |
This series of lenses?:
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JohnBar
Joined: 21 Jun 2012 Posts: 581 Location: Liverpool
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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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JohnBar wrote:
Yes they seem to be the compact design from the 60s. _________________ Rectilux 3FF Series single focus anamorphic attachments
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DR.JUAN
Joined: 08 Feb 2013 Posts: 661
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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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DR.JUAN wrote:
In M 42 they produced 28/4, 35/2,8, 50/2,8, 50/1,9 and 135/4.
Don't remember if were also the 200 mm. |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:32 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I don't know about Pininfarina and lenses. I have some Contaxes designed by Porsche and they
are really beautiful objects - and I disagree that they are normal cameras. They are solid rock, super
precise, and well, if you consider the AX a normal camera... then don't know what can be the boundaries of normal... _________________ Orio, Administrator
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JohnBar
Joined: 21 Jun 2012 Posts: 581 Location: Liverpool
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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JohnBar wrote:
Maybe this is the one? Too subtle red maybe
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barryreid
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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barryreid wrote:
It's fascinating what emerges when Industrial Design houses are let loose on cameras.
From the Porsche/Contax tie up (nice) through Giugiaro / Nikon and, Colani / Canon on the T90 and on to the Porsche / Samsung effort mentioned before. I hope the Pentax / Marc Newson K-01 debacle hasn't killed this approach. I also recently re-discovered a late 80s article about the just came across a magazine article from the late 80s with an interview with Nick Butler of BIB Design who worked with Minolta to realise the original Minolta (Maxxum) 7000 AF camera which seems to be a less well known tie-up. _________________ Canon + Contax + Minolta + Nikon + Olympus + Pentax + Yashica = Adaptall-2 |
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4744 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
barryreid wrote: |
It's fascinating what emerges when Industrial Design houses are let loose on cameras....
...Nick Butler of BIB Design who worked with Minolta to realise the original Minolta (Maxxum) 7000 AF camera which seems to be a less well known tie-up. |
I wouldnt boast about it.
Anyone think this is a design classic - I mean in a positive way??
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JohnBar
Joined: 21 Jun 2012 Posts: 581 Location: Liverpool
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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JohnBar wrote:
I guess we be waiting for the one with Go-faster stripes and the obligatory furry dice _________________ Rectilux 3FF Series single focus anamorphic attachments
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barryreid
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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:39 am Post subject: |
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barryreid wrote:
philslizzy wrote: |
barryreid wrote: |
It's fascinating what emerges when Industrial Design houses are let loose on cameras....
...Nick Butler of BIB Design who worked with Minolta to realise the original Minolta (Maxxum) 7000 AF camera which seems to be a less well known tie-up. |
I wouldnt boast about it.
Anyone think this is a design classic - I mean in a positive way??
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He was quite pleased with it in 1988! _________________ Canon + Contax + Minolta + Nikon + Olympus + Pentax + Yashica = Adaptall-2 |
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