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Orio
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:15 pm Post subject: Ferraniacolor 100, Contax RX, various lenses |
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Orio wrote:
Some weeks ago I've been able to get a handful of Ferraniacolor 100 film rolls, VERY expired (2006).
The film is nearly impossible to find today, so I gladly took them anyway. Now I really regret that I didn't stock on it while it was still possible.
FIlm developed by local lab. I have the chems to do it at home, but I never did before, so I did not want to risk this roll as I knew there were some good takes in it.
Unfortunately the lab has scratched the film in some parts and there are dirt and calcareous spots, if I could choose now I'd risk home developing anyway.
I used Contax RX camera with mostly "Hollywood" Distagon 2/28, a few ones also taken with Planar 2/100 and S-Planar 2.8/60. Info under each picture.
Scanned with Reflecta ProScan 7200 (I left it on for a long time and forgot to recalibrate it, so a couple of images show some banding). Scanning software Silverfast SE Plus.
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dani9batan
Joined: 19 Jan 2012 Posts: 218 Location: Madrid (Spain)
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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dani9batan wrote:
Beautiful colors! I love these lens... _________________ Canon EOS 5D Mark II, Contax 167MT
Contax Distagon T* 2,8/28
Contax Planar T* 1,7/50 (x2)
Contax Planar T* 1,4/85
Contax Sonnar T* 2,8/135
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
simply striking! i'm overwhelmed by these images. the color is amazing. the sharpness and clarity is among the best ive seen.
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
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simply striking! i'm overwhelmed by these images. the color is amazing. the sharpness and clarity is among the best ive seen.
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+1 stunning from every aspects, heat off! _________________ -------------------------------
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
beautiful. I am amazed at the quality after the various transformations the medium has passed through. I would imagine the originals are quite extraordinary.
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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IAZA
Joined: 16 Apr 2010 Posts: 2587 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:14 am Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
amazing results. colors and contrast on highlight and shadow area has nice balance. _________________ nex5, Olympus EPM1, yashica half 14, Canon eos 650 want to see samples of mine? please click My lenses
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:43 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Thanks guys. The Ferrania 100 is an amazing film, it somehow reminds me of (believe it or not) Kodachrome 64.
Patrick, I'm not sure to understand which transformations are you referring to. I just scanned the negatives _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:01 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
As above, wonderful colors (miss Ferrania, dammit!) and clarity. |
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Excalibur
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:54 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Excellent results which will encourage people to try film.......Ferrania is a film I can't remember ever using _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Expose negative, develop, (print), scan, process scanned version - each step could have a marked effect on the result. These seem to have come through this chain pretty much unscathed.
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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yinyangbt
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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yinyangbt wrote:
Beautiful pics ! Love the rendering . This Ferraniacolor is different from the Ferrania Solaris ? _________________ Cheers , Teo
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:55 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
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This Ferraniacolor is different from the Ferrania Solaris ? |
It's in fact Ferrania Solaris - I am used to call it Ferraniacolor since older times _________________ Orio, Administrator
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yinyangbt
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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yinyangbt wrote:
Orio wrote: |
yinyangbt wrote: |
This Ferraniacolor is different from the Ferrania Solaris ? |
It's in fact Ferrania Solaris - I am used to call it Ferraniacolor since older times |
Thank you , Orio ! _________________ Cheers , Teo
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rrkradio
Joined: 18 Nov 2010 Posts: 57 Location: Imperia - Italy
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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rrkradio wrote:
Ciao Orio,
beautiful rendition of the film and lenses. Like it. #8 and # 11 are stunning.
I understand your sadness about the bad treatment that lab did. Today i got back two 4x5" PROVIA 100F that i fired some days ago.. the price was 15 euro for the development and both are a bit damaged by the lab ... can't believe that i pay 7,5 euro each and they don't treat with the maximum care the sheet films.
I decided to give up with sheets and start again with 120 rollfilms developing on my own (i have the equipment to develop 120, i sold 15 years ago the enlarger when i changed home where i have had the darkroom for 20 years).
Sorry for OT
roby _________________ FUJI X-PRO 1 and Canon EOS 5D MKII with:
Leica R: 50mm Summicron - 60mm macro elmarit - 100mm apo macro elmarit f:2,8 - 135mm elmarit - 180 mm f:3.4 apo telyt - 35-70 f:4 vario elmar
Voigtlander: color skopar 21mm f:4.0
Contax Zeiss: Distagon 25mm f:2,8 |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Sorry to hear that, Roby.
Instead of giving up, you should develop your large format at home. Tetenal sells the chemicals for both C41 and E6. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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skida
Joined: 02 Mar 2012 Posts: 1826 Location: North East England
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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skida wrote:
Lovely colours and lack of grain. It is a shame the local Poundshop didn't have any of this film. |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
skida wrote: |
Lovely colours and lack of grain. It is a shame the local Poundshop didn't have any of this film. |
I think that no shop has it anymore Skida, the production of the 100 ISO film stopped years ago, maybe you might still find some 200 ISO if you are lucky. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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skida
Joined: 02 Mar 2012 Posts: 1826 Location: North East England
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:56 am Post subject: |
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skida wrote:
Sorry. It WAS the 200 they were selling recently, not the 100 you used here. |
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:28 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
I have one roll left of the Ferrania 100, just waiting for the perfect day in summer
to use it. What a shame it's no longer made. |
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:37 am Post subject: Re: Ferraniacolor 100, Contax RX, various lenses |
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peterqd wrote:
Hi Orio, the colours of this film are really special, I love them. And the scanning has done a great job of reproducing them - my scanner mostly gives everything a blue cast.
This picture makes me more and more curious every time I see it. I can't believe this lens has that much barrel distortion to cause the tall buildings to appear to lean like that. I'm really surprised.
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:52 am Post subject: Re: Ferraniacolor 100, Contax RX, various lenses |
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Orio wrote:
peterqd wrote: |
This picture makes me more and more curious every time I see it. I can't believe this lens has that much barrel distortion to cause the tall buildings to appear to lean like that. I'm really surprised. |
hi Peter,
indeed the Hollywood Distagon is not the best wide angle distortion-wise:
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In that particular case, however, the impression is made worse by the tilting of the camera.
If I kept the camera straight, you would maybe still notice the distortion, but a lot less, see this example below:
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peterqd
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:08 am Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Agreed, that's a lot better, but I'm not convinced about the camera being very far out of level. I tried rotating the image 3° CCW but it doesn't correct it, the trees and the building on the right look wrong then. I can't help thinking the old 4/20 Flektogon would do a much better job. _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:27 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
peterqd wrote: |
Agreed, that's a lot better, but I'm not convinced about the camera being very far out of level. I tried rotating the image 3° CCW but it doesn't correct it, the trees and the building on the right look wrong then. |
Maybe "tilt" is the wrong word for what I mean.
What I mean is that the point in the centre of the lens is aimed higher than the horizon level.
(maybe "pitch" could be the right word for that?)
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I can't help thinking the old 4/20 Flektogon would do a much better job. |
Most certainly it would, distortion-wise. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 4:03 am Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Orio wrote: |
peterqd wrote: |
Agreed, that's a lot better, but I'm not convinced about the camera being very far out of level. I tried rotating the image 3° CCW but it doesn't correct it, the trees and the building on the right look wrong then. |
Maybe "tilt" is the wrong word for what I mean.
What I mean is that the point in the centre of the lens is aimed higher than the horizon level.
(maybe "pitch" could be the right word for that?) |
Ah, of course! Doh....
Tilt is probably the word I would have used too. In surveying, it's the "angle of inclination" and artillery gunners would probably say "angle of elevation", but it's doubtful I would have used either of those.
But it's not all down to that I think. There's a lot of curvature in the image - the lower building actually appears to be leaning the other way.
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peterqd wrote: |
I can't help thinking the old 4/20 Flektogon would do a much better job. |
Most certainly it would, distortion-wise. |
I'm relieved to hear it. I've spent too long trying to work out if the building was built like it! _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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