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Orio
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:31 pm Post subject: Elisa, larger images |
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Orio wrote:
Old 5D and Contax Planar 2/135 MMG:
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Unusual comp in the first photo, very original. I think it would be great in
B&W as well. Love the lighting and her expression in the 2nd, beautiful hair and perfect exposure! |
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Thanks Bill.
I always make composition with women's legs, I did a couple of good ones with Anna too. In this case I found the lines just magic and took the photo immediately. Yes it's wide open (as you asked in your original comment), I really had no choice because I found out that there is a 1975 law that says that if you have a Planar 2/135 and do not use it wide open to take advantage of it's bokeh, it's considered national crime!
In this specific image, I find that the bokeh and the colours convey an atmosphere that is a bit reminscent of the old autochromes. For this reason I did leave it in colour. I thought of B&W too, but somehow I found that it was losing something.
I am also super happy of the second photo - well the first photo is more "personal" of course, more like my own aesthetical vision, the second photo is a classic glamour pose, but, it doesn't need just that, you also have to make it right, don't you?
I maybe immodestly think that this photo shows that a 135mm is not obsolete for portraits as many say. Of course, it must be one of the best 135mm lenses. And I think I've got the best ot them all _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
I have no doubt your 135 is the best, but I think subject matter lends a
certain synergism to the photo as well. |
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
I have no doubt your 135 is the best, but I think subject matter lends a
certain synergism to the photo as well. |
Yes, I suspect that also. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Another one, taken with the Planar 2/100 Contax MMG:
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Olivier
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
The first one is top !
Congrats. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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Attila
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
First one WOW,WOOOOW _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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poilu
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
great series, superb portrait with the 135! _________________ T* |
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Thank you guys, here's another portrait with Planar 135 wide open:
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:43 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Another one, taken with the Planar 2/100 Contax MMG:
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Really like this, 'the faint half-flush, that dies along her throat'*...Wyeth,
I think you found your Helga!
* from My Last Duchess, Robert Browning |
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martinsmith99
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:06 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Who says 135's are obsolete?
Middle two look best for me and they seem a little sharper? _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:24 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Thanks guys.
Martin, yes, the middle two are sharper, because they are not wide open.
In fact, the other two are not much unsharp in the focus point, but the focus area is really narrow, because at the very short distance I took them, a 135mm f/2 really blurs fast as soon as you go OOF.
About the 135mm lens, there is people who think that the 135mm is an obsolete focal lenght, and that most people today prefers to portrait at 85 to 100 mm.
In fact, there are not many new 135mm lenses produced recently. Even the autofocus ones like the Canon seem to be quite aged.
In the past instead 135mm was a more popular focal lenght than 85-90mm, mainly because it was cheaper to produce, so especially in the cheap section of the market you find a lot of 135mm lenses, and a lot less shorter teles.
So in the 50s and 60s you have a lot of cheap Tessar-likes and Sonnar-likes 135mm teles with slow apertures such as f/4.5, f/4 or f/3.5
In the 70s there was the "boom peak" of the fast 135mm lenses, such as this one Planar, and the ones from Nikon, Canon, etc. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:35 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
One from Planar 1.4/85 Contax (stopped down around f/2.8 or f/4):
On a side note: it took me half an hour to "iron out" digitally the bad rides in the fabric background. After three days of workshop it was in a really quite bad state. Conclusion? If I had to build my own studio, I will get paper backgrounds, absolutely. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Himself
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:40 am Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
#1 - You missed the focus again or on purpose. Hard to tell. The focus is on her left foot. As a composition is the best.
#5 and #3, have standard colors on my screen, while #4 has that yellowish tinge. _________________ Moderator Himself |
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Himself wrote: |
#1 - You missed the focus again or on purpose. Hard to tell. The focus is on her left foot. As a composition is the best.
#5 and #3, have standard colors on my screen, while #4 has that yellowish tinge. |
hi Sorin
I don't understand your remark about picture #1. There is no foot there, only legs. I focused on her panties and everything (focus, wide open blur) was intentional
Reg. #4, the golden cast is also intentional. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Himself
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
Mea culpa, I meant leg.
That's why I said that would be hard to tell whether you did it on purpose or not. _________________ Moderator Himself |
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
It had to be done this way. If I did it at f/8 with full DOF and details, it would have been, like, a butcher shot? _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Himself
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
Orio wrote: |
a butcher shot? |
In my book, butcher shots like that one are welcome. _________________ Moderator Himself |
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Sweet legs!
(Planar 1.4/85 Contax) _________________ Orio, Administrator
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poilu
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
wow! this series is getting better than the "squirrel of the day"
keep them coming _________________ T* |
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Your wish is my command!
Sweet everything:
(Planar 1.4/85 Contax) _________________ Orio, Administrator
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poilu
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
you keep all the best ones for the end
I like all the Planar 1.4/85 pics _________________ T* |
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
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I like all the Planar 1.4/85 pics |
Me too _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
To help the girl with her portfolio (and help myself with mine, also), here's a grungy one:
For those who think that I'm a boring purist: I betcha thought I couldn't do it!
(P.S.: Planar 1.2/85 Contax 50 Years series, wide open or f/2 I can't remember) _________________ Orio, Administrator
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