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poilu
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:54 pm Post subject: duck with various raw developer |
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poilu wrote:
same pic with various converter in auto mode
contax 50 1.7
capture one 5
bibble 5 preview 3
jpg extract from canon cr2
camera raw 5.3
raw therapee 2.4.1
silkypix 3
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Rolf
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
I´m surprised how good Raw Therepee performs _________________ Rolf |
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
And which one gets the closest to reality?
The "auto" mode often is not the best choice, BTW. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Olivier
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
And which one gets the closest to reality?
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Poilu,
I was wondering exactly the same : which is closer to what you saw ?
Then, what camera ? _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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poilu
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
Olivier wrote: |
I was wondering exactly the same : which is
closer to what you saw ? |
I don't remember and I would say none of them
I like the warm balance of camera raw but taste is different for everyone
I took this one at the same time on negative fuji 200 with contax 50 1.7 then I switch to my 40D but the ducks go away, it is the reason why you see their back, I wanted to catch them and kitchen them
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Olivier
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Well, it seems to me that camera raw is the closest to your film picture. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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patrickh
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:58 am Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
but look at the detail in capture one. Colour is easily rectified, but you can't put detail back in.
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
patrickh wrote: |
but look at the detail in capture one. Colour is easily rectified, but you can't put detail back in.
patrickh |
I'd like to see a comparison with Bibble, as Bibble says that they're outperforming capture one for resolution. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Raw Therapee has the best detail in the ducks. The rest have blown
highlights. I swear by Bibble and has the best color I've seen. |
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poilu
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
Bill wrote: |
The rest have blown highlights |
I tend to expose to the right and shot was probably over exposed
interesting that Raw Therapee is the only one who automatically bring back blown details
I have add the bibble version
I will make a comparison of resolution with another pic between bibble & capture |
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koji
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
Orio wrote: |
patrickh wrote: |
but look at the detail in capture one. Colour is easily rectified, but you can't put detail back in.
patrickh |
I'd like to see a comparison with Bibble, as Bibble says that they're outperforming capture one for resolution. |
I have some doubt about their statement.
Anyway thanks Poilu who brings up this subject.
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patrickh
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
I have been using the latest version of Bibble (5) and I believe that they may well be right about the detail. Their new colour engine also produces the most natural and realistic (lifelike) colours I have seen
patrickh
I would love to see comparison with other converters. _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
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Nesster
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:54 am Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
Looks like I'll have to check out bibble - though I agree raw therapee in standard default mode fixed the duck backs best.
Were there big differences in jpeg file sizes that resulted?
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francotirador wrote:
I like much more the first, but use only the CS4. What think of it? _________________ Canon 5D II-Sony nex 6
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